The following two statements from Commission Exhibit 1381 rule out Sarah Stanton standing anywhere near let alone in the position maintained by Mr. Murphy's (Sean) Prayer Man male figure...
"I, Mrs . Robert E . (Pauline) Sanders, Sr ., freely furnish the following statement to Eugene F . Petrakis and A . Raymond Switzer, who have identified themselves to me as Special Agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation . "I am a Caucasian female employed as a clerk-accountant at the Texas School Book Depository, 411 Elm Street, Dallas, Texas . I have been so employed for the past 61' years I reside at 4226 Delmar Street, Dallas, Texas, and was born November 6, 1908, Moran, Kansas . "At approximately 12 :20 PM on November 22, 1963, I left the lunchroom on the second floor of the building and went out the front entrance to await the arrival of the Presidential Motorcade which I knew was due to pass the Depository building at about 12 :30 PM . I took up a position at the top of the front steps of the Depository building facing Elm Street . To the best of my recollection I was standing on the top step at the east end of the entrance .
"I recall that while standing there I noticed Mrs . Sarah Stanton standing next to me, but I am unsure as to the others . Mrs . Stanton is likewise an employee of the Texas School Book Depository . "To the best of my recollection I did not see Lee Harvey Oswald at any time on November 22, 1963, and although I knew him by sight as an employee of the building I did not know him by name and had never spoken to him at any time . "I do not recall seeing any strangers in the Texas School Book Depository building at any time on the morning of November 22, 1963 . "After the motorcade par carrying President John F . Kennedy passed, I remained a moment on the steps, then walked out to the concrete island in front of the Depository building to see what had happened . I remained there a moment and then returned to the Depository building through the main entrance . I then walked to the second floor where I usually work .
and now this one...
"I, Sarah D . Stanton, make the following statement to Thomas T . Trettis, Jr ., who has identified himself as a Special Agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation I presently reside at 227 North Ewing Street, Dallas, Texas . was born on 6-9-22 at Grand Prairie, Texas . I am a white female and am employed as a clerk at the Texas School Book Depository Building
"When President John F . Kennedy was shot I was standing on the front steps of the Texas School Book Depository Building *WITH Mr . William Shelley, 126 South Tatum, Dallas, Mr . Otls Williams, 3429 Southwestern., Dallas, Mrs . R . E . SANDERS , 4226 Delmar, Dallas, and Billy Lovelady, 7722 Hume Drive, Dallas . All of the above are employed at the Texas Sc4,oo1 Book Depository Building . I heard three shots after the President's car passed the front of the building but I could not see the President's car at that time . I cannot say positively where the shots came from . I did not see Lee Harvey Oswald at that time or at any time during that day "I did not see any person in the Texas School Book Depository Building on the morning of 11-22-63 who was a stranger to me . "I left the Depository building about 2 :20 on the afternoon of 11-22-63 after giving the police our names and addresses . "I have read the above two page statement and St is true and correct to the best of my knowledge . "/s/Sarah D . Stanton,3/18/64, Dallas, Texas "Witnessed : /s/Thomas T . Trettis, Jr ., Special Agent, FBI, 3-18-64 Dallas, Texas "/s/E . J . Robertson, Special Agent, FBI, 3-18-64, Dallas, Texas ."
Mr. Doyle continues to bend these factual statements in a desperate attempt to force his self-serving narrative upon the JFK Research Community, and then have the audacity to wonder Why?! no one believes his claim that Sarah Stanton was standing all alone in the Prayer Man figure position (even though she and Mrs. Sanders themselves--folks actually--in real time-- on the scene that fateful afternoon--say otherwise). Go figure.
To his credit, cannot say Mr. Murphy (Sean) did not warn us way back in 2013 that some researchers, upon not being able to account for the lone male figure standing atop those entrance steps, would resort to desperation and have the audacity to insinuate he is a female. Mr. Doyle, be careful about asking others to present facts when you don't care to adhere to the same. Moving forward, I would suggest you make a good-faith effort to put a name on the male figure rather than take words out of the mouths of Mrs. Sanders & Mrs. Stanton mentioned above who were actually right there on the scene that fateful afternoon.
If you are unable to put a Texas School Book Depository male employee to account for the Prayer Man male figure's position, I fully understand as there's a reason for that.
The wrongly-accused did not shoot anybody. Anybody.
Lest you forget to read, Mr. Doyle, take in these factual statements and try to let them sink in sir...
The following two statements from Commission Exhibit 1381 rule out Sarah Stanton standing anywhere near let alone in the position maintained by Mr. Murphy's (Sean) Prayer Man male figure...
"I, Mrs . Robert E . (Pauline) Sanders, Sr ., freely furnish the following statement to Eugene F . Petrakis and A . Raymond Switzer, who have identified themselves to me as Special Agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation . "I am a Caucasian female employed as a clerk-accountant at the Texas School Book Depository, 411 Elm Street, Dallas, Texas . I have been so employed for the past 61' years I reside at 4226 Delmar Street, Dallas, Texas, and was born November 6, 1908, Moran, Kansas . "At approximately 12 :20 PM on November 22, 1963, I left the lunchroom on the second floor of the building and went out the front entrance to await the arrival of the Presidential Motorcade which I knew was due to pass the Depository building at about 12 :30 PM . I took up a position at the top of the front steps of the Depository building facing Elm Street . To the best of my recollection I was standing on the top step at the east end of the entrance .
"I recall that while standing there I noticed Mrs . Sarah Stanton standing next to me, but I am unsure as to the others . Mrs . Stanton is likewise an employee of the Texas School Book Depository . "To the best of my recollection I did not see Lee Harvey Oswald at any time on November 22, 1963, and although I knew him by sight as an employee of the building I did not know him by name and had never spoken to him at any time . "I do not recall seeing any strangers in the Texas School Book Depository building at any time on the morning of November 22, 1963 . "After the motorcade par carrying President John F . Kennedy passed, I remained a moment on the steps, then walked out to the concrete island in front of the Depository building to see what had happened . I remained there a moment and then returned to the Depository building through the main entrance . I then walked to the second floor where I usually work .
and now this one...
"I, Sarah D . Stanton, make the following statement to Thomas T . Trettis, Jr ., who has identified himself as a Special Agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation I presently reside at 227 North Ewing Street, Dallas, Texas . was born on 6-9-22 at Grand Prairie, Texas . I am a white female and am employed as a clerk at the Texas School Book Depository Building
"When President John F . Kennedy was shot I was standing on the front steps of the Texas School Book Depository Building with Mr . William Shelley, 126 South Tatum, Dallas, Mr . Otls Williams, 3429 Southwestern., Dallas, Mrs . R . E . Sanders, 4226 Delmar, Dallas, and Billy Lovelady, 7722 Hume Drive, Dallas . All of the above are employed at the Texas Sc4,oo1 Book Depository Building . I heard three shots after the President's car passed the front of the building but I could not see the President's car at that time . I cannot say positively where the shots came from . I did not see Lee Harvey Oswald at that time or at any time during that day "I did not see any person in the Texas School Book Depository Building on the morning of 11-22-63 who was a stranger to me . "I left the Depository building about 2 :20 on the afternoon of 11-22-63 after giving the police our names and addresses . "I have read the above two page statement and St is true and correct to the best of my knowledge . "/s/Sarah D . Stanton,3/18/64, Dallas, Texas "Witnessed : /s/Thomas T . Trettis, Jr ., Special Agent, FBI, 3-18-64 Dallas, Texas "/s/E . J . Robertson, Special Agent, FBI, 3-18-64, Dallas, Texas ."
Stop bending these factual statements in a desperate attempt to force your self-serving narrative upon the JFK Research Community, and then have the audacity to wonder Why?! no one believes your claim that Sarah Stanton was standing all alone in the Prayer Man figure position (even though she and Mrs. Sanders themselves--folks actually--in real time-- on the scene that fateful afternoon--say otherwise). Go figure.
The wrongly-accused did not shoot anybody. Anybody.
"I, Mrs . Robert E . (Pauline) Sanders, Sr ., freely furnish the following statement to Eugene F . Petrakis and A . Raymond Switzer, who have identified themselves to me as Special Agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation . "I am a Caucasian female employed as a clerk-accountant at the Texas School Book Depository, 411 Elm Street, Dallas, Texas . I have been so employed for the past 61' years I reside at 4226 Delmar Street, Dallas, Texas, and was born November 6, 1908, Moran, Kansas . "At approximately 12 :20 PM on November 22, 1963, I left the lunchroom on the second floor of the building and went out the front entrance to await the arrival of the Presidential Motorcade which I knew was due to pass the Depository building at about 12 :30 PM . I took up a position at the top of the front steps of the Depository building facing Elm Street . To the best of my recollection I was standing on the top step at the east end of the entrance .
"I recall that while standing there I noticed Mrs . Sarah Stanton standing next to me, but I am unsure as to the others . Mrs . Stanton is likewise an employee of the Texas School Book Depository . "To the best of my recollection I did not see Lee Harvey Oswald at any time on November 22, 1963, and although I knew him by sight as an employee of the building I did not know him by name and had never spoken to him at any time . "I do not recall seeing any strangers in the Texas School Book Depository building at any time on the morning of November 22, 1963 . "After the motorcade par carrying President John F . Kennedy passed, I remained a moment on the steps, then walked out to the concrete island in front of the Depository building to see what had happened . I remained there a moment and then returned to the Depository building through the main entrance . I then walked to the second floor where I usually work .
and now this one...
"I, Sarah D . Stanton, make the following statement to Thomas T . Trettis, Jr ., who has identified himself as a Special Agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation I presently reside at 227 North Ewing Street, Dallas, Texas . was born on 6-9-22 at Grand Prairie, Texas . I am a white female and am employed as a clerk at the Texas School Book Depository Building
"When President John F . Kennedy was shot I was standing on the front steps of the Texas School Book Depository Building *WITH Mr . William Shelley, 126 South Tatum, Dallas, Mr . Otls Williams, 3429 Southwestern., Dallas, Mrs . R . E . SANDERS , 4226 Delmar, Dallas, and Billy Lovelady, 7722 Hume Drive, Dallas . All of the above are employed at the Texas Sc4,oo1 Book Depository Building . I heard three shots after the President's car passed the front of the building but I could not see the President's car at that time . I cannot say positively where the shots came from . I did not see Lee Harvey Oswald at that time or at any time during that day "I did not see any person in the Texas School Book Depository Building on the morning of 11-22-63 who was a stranger to me . "I left the Depository building about 2 :20 on the afternoon of 11-22-63 after giving the police our names and addresses . "I have read the above two page statement and St is true and correct to the best of my knowledge . "/s/Sarah D . Stanton,3/18/64, Dallas, Texas "Witnessed : /s/Thomas T . Trettis, Jr ., Special Agent, FBI, 3-18-64 Dallas, Texas "/s/E . J . Robertson, Special Agent, FBI, 3-18-64, Dallas, Texas ."
Mr. Doyle continues to bend these factual statements in a desperate attempt to force his self-serving narrative upon the JFK Research Community, and then have the audacity to wonder Why?! no one believes his claim that Sarah Stanton was standing all alone in the Prayer Man figure position (even though she and Mrs. Sanders themselves--folks actually--in real time-- on the scene that fateful afternoon--say otherwise). Go figure.
To his credit, cannot say Mr. Murphy (Sean) did not warn us way back in 2013 that some researchers, upon not being able to account for the lone male figure standing atop those entrance steps, would resort to desperation and have the audacity to insinuate he is a female. Mr. Doyle, be careful about asking others to present facts when you don't care to adhere to the same. Moving forward, I would suggest you make a good-faith effort to put a name on the male figure rather than take words out of the mouths of Mrs. Sanders & Mrs. Stanton mentioned above who were actually right there on the scene that fateful afternoon.
If you are unable to put a Texas School Book Depository male employee to account for the Prayer Man male figure's position, I fully understand as there's a reason for that.
The wrongly-accused did not shoot anybody. Anybody.
(11-04-2024, 06:02 PM)Brian Doyle Wrote: On the contrary, Mr. Doyle, I haven't ignored the so-called elbow-length sleeve in Owens (Who is Owen & and What are you talking about?)
It is always a mistake to give the dignity of a response to a troll however, the Owens Film image of Sarah Stanton exiting the Depository after she was questioned is seen in the linked Education Forum post...Morissette thinks Owens was 2 hours after the shots...The first thing that should be noticed is the fact Stanton is hugging the west wall of the portal in her exit - just like she did when she was standing in that same spot during the assassination...Stanton liked that spot and she stood in it on both occasions...She was probably waiting for a ride home...
Read the respective Commission Exhibit 1381 statements of Mrs. Sanders & Mrs, Stanton. Let those factual statements sink in, Mr. Doyle.
If you observe Morissette's linked thread you will see that he posted the images and asked for discussion from two of the main Prayer Man people...He never got any response from them because they were well aware that the new Owen's Film images of Sarah Stanton disproved Prayer Man...The Prayer Man people suddenly got gun-shy and did not respond to the proof Morissette was showing them...You see, when you have dirty moderators covering for you you don't have to respond to the proof you were calling for that disproved you...When you use banning to remove the people who posted it you don't have to respond to the correct evidence you were calling for...The Morissette thread shows that the Education Forum strategically uses censorship and banning to avoid recognition of correct evidence...The only reason I am being kept off the Education Forum is because the crook administrator there knows that if my evidence is given the place it has earned that their favored Prayer Man theory will be refuted and that crook Gordon is not going to allow that to happen as long as he has the banning knife at the throat of his members...
No comment, as I'm not here to point fingers at anyone, my goal from the start (May, 2014) is simply to let the facts/truth fall where it may. Don't put words in the mouths of Mrs. Sanders and Mrs. Stanton, Mr. Doyle, stand down.
While the Education Forum is full of technical experts like Chris Davidson and the Rube Goldberg analyst Andrej Stancak you will notice that none of them made any attempt to apply their photogrammetry to the Owens Film image of Stanton...They avoided it because they are fully aware that if they do a size and shape technical analysis of Stanton in Owens that she will perfectly match Prayer Man in Darnell...Especially in girth and height...Even Morissette didn't have the backbone to follow-through on his own proof and the opposition's cowardice and he meekly withdrew from his own thread...That asshole Gordon comes in with thundering threats and hopes you don't notice that him and his fellow crooks couldn't let Morissette's thread slide to oblivion fast enough...Morissette didn't get DiEugenio's click count with that one...
Mr. Davidson and Mr. Stancak are exemplary researchers, Mr. Doyle, you can learn a lot from them.
If you look at the second frame Morissette posted from Owens you can just make out an elbow-length sleeve on Stanton where her skin is clearly divided from her dress sleeve...Compare this to the sleeve length on Prayer Man and it perfectly matches...
Or. Could it simply be that Prayer Man's sleeves are rolled up? C'mon, Mr. Doyle, you are researching again.
Even though Gordon pretends to be interested in enforcing "correct evidence procedure when told" with life banning you'll notice that Morissette's technical proof was ignored by himself and he allowed Roger Odisio to post the wrong evidence on the Education Forum after they buried Morissette's thread...The Prayer Man people have hijacked the Education Forum so they use their dirty moderators to help slide the threads that refute Prayer Man off the board while lying about the reason for the banning of those who proved it...
Facts, Mr. Doyle, please refrain from making false accusations/conjecture when you don't get the responses your narrative wants.
The Prayer Man people are desperately trying to avoid Owens...Even though the Prayer Man people did lengthy painstaking analysis of the Prayer Man photography on other films and photos they didn't touch the Owens Film at all and did nothing on it...No one is going out and looking for better frames from Owens and Davidson is not applying any of his digital enhancement processes on it to bring out more features...No one is looking for an Owens frame that shows the female dress neckline seen in Darnell...The only thing Gordon offers to account for the abject cowardice and dishonesty of the Education Forum's members is to say my nonsense would no longer be tolerated and I would not be let back on the EF (even though I offer by far the best analysis that settled the issue)...And, of course, there is no comment from "keep your record clean for Gordon" Sandy over all this or what the punishment would be for dirty moderating and member abuse...
Oh, dear
For the love of G-d, please read Mrs. Sanders' & Mrs. Stanton's factual statements, Mr. Doyle.
Alan Ford is a sick nut and a troll...He might even be Duncan MacRae himself...So I seriously doubt he'll give any other response to this conclusive evidence besides the obnoxious trolling he has already posted:
Lol! No offense to Mr. MacRae, Mr. Doyle, but where I appreciate the Scottish and their homeland, I'll stick with the Irish clan.
https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic...ent-482788
In good faith and in fairness to you, Mr. Doyle, I will click upon the link and review the material and make a response as early as next week.
Lest you forget to read, Mr. Doyle, take in these factual statements and try to let them sink in sir...
The following two statements from Commission Exhibit 1381 rule out Sarah Stanton standing anywhere near let alone in the position maintained by Mr. Murphy's (Sean) Prayer Man male figure...
"I, Mrs . Robert E . (Pauline) Sanders, Sr ., freely furnish the following statement to Eugene F . Petrakis and A . Raymond Switzer, who have identified themselves to me as Special Agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation . "I am a Caucasian female employed as a clerk-accountant at the Texas School Book Depository, 411 Elm Street, Dallas, Texas . I have been so employed for the past 61' years I reside at 4226 Delmar Street, Dallas, Texas, and was born November 6, 1908, Moran, Kansas . "At approximately 12 :20 PM on November 22, 1963, I left the lunchroom on the second floor of the building and went out the front entrance to await the arrival of the Presidential Motorcade which I knew was due to pass the Depository building at about 12 :30 PM . I took up a position at the top of the front steps of the Depository building facing Elm Street . To the best of my recollection I was standing on the top step at the east end of the entrance .
"I recall that while standing there I noticed Mrs . Sarah Stanton standing next to me, but I am unsure as to the others . Mrs . Stanton is likewise an employee of the Texas School Book Depository . "To the best of my recollection I did not see Lee Harvey Oswald at any time on November 22, 1963, and although I knew him by sight as an employee of the building I did not know him by name and had never spoken to him at any time . "I do not recall seeing any strangers in the Texas School Book Depository building at any time on the morning of November 22, 1963 . "After the motorcade par carrying President John F . Kennedy passed, I remained a moment on the steps, then walked out to the concrete island in front of the Depository building to see what had happened . I remained there a moment and then returned to the Depository building through the main entrance . I then walked to the second floor where I usually work .
and now this one...
"I, Sarah D . Stanton, make the following statement to Thomas T . Trettis, Jr ., who has identified himself as a Special Agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation I presently reside at 227 North Ewing Street, Dallas, Texas . was born on 6-9-22 at Grand Prairie, Texas . I am a white female and am employed as a clerk at the Texas School Book Depository Building
"When President John F . Kennedy was shot I was standing on the front steps of the Texas School Book Depository Building with Mr . William Shelley, 126 South Tatum, Dallas, Mr . Otls Williams, 3429 Southwestern., Dallas, Mrs . R . E . Sanders, 4226 Delmar, Dallas, and Billy Lovelady, 7722 Hume Drive, Dallas . All of the above are employed at the Texas Sc4,oo1 Book Depository Building . I heard three shots after the President's car passed the front of the building but I could not see the President's car at that time . I cannot say positively where the shots came from . I did not see Lee Harvey Oswald at that time or at any time during that day "I did not see any person in the Texas School Book Depository Building on the morning of 11-22-63 who was a stranger to me . "I left the Depository building about 2 :20 on the afternoon of 11-22-63 after giving the police our names and addresses . "I have read the above two page statement and St is true and correct to the best of my knowledge . "/s/Sarah D . Stanton,3/18/64, Dallas, Texas "Witnessed : /s/Thomas T . Trettis, Jr ., Special Agent, FBI, 3-18-64 Dallas, Texas "/s/E . J . Robertson, Special Agent, FBI, 3-18-64, Dallas, Texas ."
Stop bending these factual statements in a desperate attempt to force your self-serving narrative upon the JFK Research Community, and then have the audacity to wonder Why?! no one believes your claim that Sarah Stanton was standing all alone in the Prayer Man figure position (even though she and Mrs. Sanders themselves--folks actually--in real time-- on the scene that fateful afternoon--say otherwise). Go figure.
The wrongly-accused did not shoot anybody. Anybody.