13-11-2009, 06:51 AM
Here are four that come by way of Michael Rivero's http://whatreallyhappened.com/
Polish Health Minister says no to the H1N1 Swine Flu Shot for the entire country (in Polish, with English subtitles)
http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=8273
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The Media International Group:
"/ 12.11.2009 // 12:16 // Shock! New types of influenza found in Ukraine. 85 cases of swine influenza (updated at 05:47 pm)
MIGnews.com.ua
Besides swine influenza, AN3N2, AN2N2 and group B have been found in the territory of Ukraine. In particular, at present at least 8 different viruses are circulating in the territory of Bukovyna. Such conclusions are made by experts of regional sanitary epidemiological stations following the results of almost 6,000 studies on the identification of acute respiratory viral infections, said the chief state sanitary doctor of the Chernivtsi Region Oleksandr Svitlichny on November 11 at the briefing.
According to him, all the acute respiratory viral infections, which are currently circulating in the territory of Bukovina, are treated. However, due to the fact that they collided, clinical disease and the tactics of his treatment change. Therefore, a doctor needs to know exactly which virus is detected in the patient.
Among the viruses that are registered in Bukovina, Oleksander Svitlychny told about AH3N2, AH2N2, AH1N1, a large group of influenza B, parainfluenza viruses of three types, reports proUA.com.
Ministry of Health notes the lack of vaccines against seasonal types of influenza and influenza A (H1N1) in the world, the first deputy chief sanitary doctor Ludmyla Muharska told about it in the air of TVi IV channel on November 11.
She noted that the Ministry of Health asked the World Health Organization with a request to reserve the vaccine for Ukraine. Also Ludmyla Muharska stressed that during the epidemic there is a definite strategy for vaccination of the population.
"When the active epidemic has begun, population does not need mass vaccination, and it is absolutely correct opinion, and we support it," - she said and added that the vaccination of risk groups with a purpose to have to individual protection or closed groups is necessary, Ukrainian News reported.
As a reminder, experts believe vaccination against influenza A (H1N1) is possible during the epidemic.
Ministry of Health has confirmed 213 deaths of influenza and acute respiratory viral infections as of November 11 in 21 Regions, Kyiv and Crimea, Health Ministry states. Out of 213 deaths 24 fatal cases are recorded over the past day, Ukrainian News reported.
Since October 29 81 cases of death has been recorded in the Lviv Region, 30 - in the Ivano-Frankivsk Region, 22 - in the Chernivtsi Region, 20 - in the Ternopil Region, 8 – in the Kyiv and Khmelnitsky Regions, and 7 - in the Rivne and Volyn Regions, 6 - in Kyiv, 4 - in the Vinnytsa Region, 3 - in the Donetsk Region, 2 - in the Transcarpathian, Zaporozhye, Poltava, Kharkiv and Chernihiv Regions, and 1 - in Crimea, Odessa, Kherson, Cherkasy, Zhytomyr, Mykolayiv and Sumy Regions.
In general, since October 29, 1 mn 192,481 people have become sick with influenza and acute respiratory viral infections. Since the beginning of the epidemic 62,462 people have been hospitalized, 25,968 people have been released. In Kyiv 83,243 people ill with influenza and acute respiratory viral infections are recorded.
05:46 p.m. 85 cases of pandemic influenza A/H1N1 are confirmed in Ukraine, including 16 – fatal one. This was reported by chief doctor of the Central sanitary-epidemiological station Lyubov Nekrasova at a press conference in Kyiv on Thursday.
"According to the preliminary conclusion, we can assume that today this type of virus (A/H1N1 - editor.) prevails in the country, and most of all the diseases are caused by this same type of virus. But now other types of viruses are circulating - a seasonal influenza and respiratory viruses" , - she added.
Lyubov Nekrasova reported that since the beginning of the epidemic 533 samples had been taken, out of them 108 specimens were analyzed and pandemic influenza A/H1N1 is confirmed in 85 cases.
She also noted that currently there is no need to conduct research on each case of disease, because the cost of a study is Hr 220.
In addition, Lyubov Nekrasova stressed that the spread of the virus occurs so rapidly that it is necessary need to define a certain number of studies for the objective analysis, which would confirm indeed the majority of cases among men is a pandemic of influenza A/H1N1. These studies should be done in order to understand how to act when the next wave of the epidemic will appear, Interfax-Ukraine reports.
Lyubov Nekrasova also said that the central laboratory conducts up to 50-60 researches daily. "According to these data, we can say that up to 85 percents of all positive results is influenza A/H1N1," - she said."
http://mignews.com.ua/en/articles/378527.html
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Presidential Candidate of Ukraine - Claims it IS Pneumonic Plague (trans.)11/12/09 4:13pm
By: jo-ann F.
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The candidate accused the government of concealing information about the flu epidemic in Ukraine, but representatives of the NSDC refute it.
Recall that in nine regions of Ukraine introduced quarantine because of epidemic influenza. Quarantine announced in Lviv, Ivano-Frankivsk, Ternopil (these areas are most affected by the flu), Transcarpathian, Chernivtsi, Rivne, Volyn, Brussels and Vinnitsa regions
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Ukranian Doctor Speaks to Local Media About Epidemic
The epidemic of eye doctor: what silence officials
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Polish Health Minister says no to the H1N1 Swine Flu Shot for the entire country (in Polish, with English subtitles)
http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=8273
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The Media International Group:
"/ 12.11.2009 // 12:16 // Shock! New types of influenza found in Ukraine. 85 cases of swine influenza (updated at 05:47 pm)
MIGnews.com.ua
Besides swine influenza, AN3N2, AN2N2 and group B have been found in the territory of Ukraine. In particular, at present at least 8 different viruses are circulating in the territory of Bukovyna. Such conclusions are made by experts of regional sanitary epidemiological stations following the results of almost 6,000 studies on the identification of acute respiratory viral infections, said the chief state sanitary doctor of the Chernivtsi Region Oleksandr Svitlichny on November 11 at the briefing.
According to him, all the acute respiratory viral infections, which are currently circulating in the territory of Bukovina, are treated. However, due to the fact that they collided, clinical disease and the tactics of his treatment change. Therefore, a doctor needs to know exactly which virus is detected in the patient.
Among the viruses that are registered in Bukovina, Oleksander Svitlychny told about AH3N2, AH2N2, AH1N1, a large group of influenza B, parainfluenza viruses of three types, reports proUA.com.
Ministry of Health notes the lack of vaccines against seasonal types of influenza and influenza A (H1N1) in the world, the first deputy chief sanitary doctor Ludmyla Muharska told about it in the air of TVi IV channel on November 11.
She noted that the Ministry of Health asked the World Health Organization with a request to reserve the vaccine for Ukraine. Also Ludmyla Muharska stressed that during the epidemic there is a definite strategy for vaccination of the population.
"When the active epidemic has begun, population does not need mass vaccination, and it is absolutely correct opinion, and we support it," - she said and added that the vaccination of risk groups with a purpose to have to individual protection or closed groups is necessary, Ukrainian News reported.
As a reminder, experts believe vaccination against influenza A (H1N1) is possible during the epidemic.
Ministry of Health has confirmed 213 deaths of influenza and acute respiratory viral infections as of November 11 in 21 Regions, Kyiv and Crimea, Health Ministry states. Out of 213 deaths 24 fatal cases are recorded over the past day, Ukrainian News reported.
Since October 29 81 cases of death has been recorded in the Lviv Region, 30 - in the Ivano-Frankivsk Region, 22 - in the Chernivtsi Region, 20 - in the Ternopil Region, 8 – in the Kyiv and Khmelnitsky Regions, and 7 - in the Rivne and Volyn Regions, 6 - in Kyiv, 4 - in the Vinnytsa Region, 3 - in the Donetsk Region, 2 - in the Transcarpathian, Zaporozhye, Poltava, Kharkiv and Chernihiv Regions, and 1 - in Crimea, Odessa, Kherson, Cherkasy, Zhytomyr, Mykolayiv and Sumy Regions.
In general, since October 29, 1 mn 192,481 people have become sick with influenza and acute respiratory viral infections. Since the beginning of the epidemic 62,462 people have been hospitalized, 25,968 people have been released. In Kyiv 83,243 people ill with influenza and acute respiratory viral infections are recorded.
05:46 p.m. 85 cases of pandemic influenza A/H1N1 are confirmed in Ukraine, including 16 – fatal one. This was reported by chief doctor of the Central sanitary-epidemiological station Lyubov Nekrasova at a press conference in Kyiv on Thursday.
"According to the preliminary conclusion, we can assume that today this type of virus (A/H1N1 - editor.) prevails in the country, and most of all the diseases are caused by this same type of virus. But now other types of viruses are circulating - a seasonal influenza and respiratory viruses" , - she added.
Lyubov Nekrasova reported that since the beginning of the epidemic 533 samples had been taken, out of them 108 specimens were analyzed and pandemic influenza A/H1N1 is confirmed in 85 cases.
She also noted that currently there is no need to conduct research on each case of disease, because the cost of a study is Hr 220.
In addition, Lyubov Nekrasova stressed that the spread of the virus occurs so rapidly that it is necessary need to define a certain number of studies for the objective analysis, which would confirm indeed the majority of cases among men is a pandemic of influenza A/H1N1. These studies should be done in order to understand how to act when the next wave of the epidemic will appear, Interfax-Ukraine reports.
Lyubov Nekrasova also said that the central laboratory conducts up to 50-60 researches daily. "According to these data, we can say that up to 85 percents of all positive results is influenza A/H1N1," - she said."
http://mignews.com.ua/en/articles/378527.html
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Presidential Candidate of Ukraine - Claims it IS Pneumonic Plague (trans.)11/12/09 4:13pm
By: jo-ann F.
Tags:
The candidate accused the government of concealing information about the flu epidemic in Ukraine, but representatives of the NSDC refute it.
Recall that in nine regions of Ukraine introduced quarantine because of epidemic influenza. Quarantine announced in Lviv, Ivano-Frankivsk, Ternopil (these areas are most affected by the flu), Transcarpathian, Chernivtsi, Rivne, Volyn, Brussels and Vinnitsa regions
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Ukranian Doctor Speaks to Local Media About Epidemic
The epidemic of eye doctor: what silence officials
02 листопада 2009, 20:49
02 November 2009, 20:49 Данило МОКРИК
Daniel MOKRYK Write comment 61
Лікар однієї із львівських лікарень, що погодилася поспілкуватися з нами на тему теперішньої епідемії, попросила не називати ані її імені, ані посади, ані навіть лікарні, у якій працює.
The doctor of one of the Lviv hospital that agreed to talk with us on the current epidemic is asked to call either her name or position, or even hospitals, which works. З огляду на те, що вона розповіла, думаємо, що читачі з розумінням поставляться до такого її бажання.
Given the fact that she mentioned, I think that readers understand a treat to her desire. Ми гарантуємо, що йдеться про реальне інтерв'ю реального лікаря реальної львівської лікарні, котра безпосередньо працює із хворими на ГРЗ.
We guarantee that this is a real interview with real real Lviv hospital doctor who works directly with patients in acute. Хочемо запевнити, що метою цього матеріалу не є нагнітання й без того напруженої атмосфери.
We want to assure you that the purpose of this material are not escalate the already tense atmosphere. Ми лише вважаємо, що читачі повинні знати, як насправді проходить боротьба з епідемією.
We just believe that readers should know how to actually pass the epidemic. Як зараз виглядає ситуація з епідемією у вашій лікарні?
As now the situation of the epidemic in your hospital? Ми справді маємо зараз дуже багато звернень з приводу гострих респіраторних захворювань.
We really have now is a lot of requests from acute respiratory diseases. Більшість із них – панічні.
Most of them - Panic. Зараз у нас фактично закриті планові надходження – переважну більшість місць віддано саме під надходження хворих на грип.
Now we actually closed ua - the overwhelming majority of seats given to it under the arrivals of patients with influenza. Таких маємо надзвичайно багато.
Such have very many. При цьому офіційних даних щодо того, про епідемію якого саме різновиду хвороби йдеться, ми не маємо.
Thus official data as to the epidemic which is the variety of disease states, we do not have. Ми не маємо відповідних лабораторій для того, щоб проводити аналізи.
We do not have appropriate laboratories to conduct tests. Тому чи йдеться про «свинячий», «телячий» чи іще бозна-який грип – ми насправді досі не знаємо.
So if it comes to "pork", "calf" or even knows, that influenza - we really still do not know. Чи можуть мати під собою підставу чутки, що насправді йдеться не про «свинячий» грип, а про легеневу чуму (як це нещодавно озвучила Інна Богословська)?
Can be baseless rumors that really is not about "swine" influenza, pneumonic plague and about (as recently voiced gallery contains)? Абсолютно ніякої підстави для подібних чуток немає.
Absolutely no grounds for such rumors do not. Легенева чума – це лише один із проявів чуми.
Pneumonic plague - this is just one manifestation of the plague. Вона має лише один збудник – чумну паличку, Yersinia pestis.
She has only one agent - pestilential stick, Yersinia pestis. Якби зараз справді йшлося про легеневу чуму, то ми мали б і її інші прояви – наприклад, чуму бубонну.
If the matter is really about pneumonic plague, we would have and its other manifestations - such as bubonic plague. Не кажучи вже про те, що смертність у такому випадку була б справді величезною.
Not to mention the fact that mortality in this case would be really great. Що дійсно не виключено, так це те, що йдеться про накладення декількох вірусів.
What is really not possible, it is that it is imposing a few viruses. Тобто що ГРЗ викликають одразу декілька збудників.
That is what causes acute multiple pathogens. Зараз загальним місцем є, що йдеться все ж-таки про «свинячий» грип.
There is a common place that it is all the same about "swine" influenza. Наскільки ж високим є реальний процент хворих, заражених саме цим штамом вірусу?
It is a real high percentage of patients infected with this strain of virus is? Цього ми не знаємо – і навряд чи коли-небудь дізнаємося.
This we know - and hardly ever know. По-перше, як я казала, у нас немає можливості провести відповідні аналізи.
Firstly, as I said, we are not able to conduct appropriate tests. По-друге, ті аналізи, що все ж-таки будуть проводитися, будуть вибірковими.
Second, those tests that all the same will be held to be selective. Ніхто зараз не може взяти зразки вірусу у кожного хворого.
Nobody now can not take samples of the virus in each patient. Отже, реальну, репрезентативну статистику встановити просто неможливо.
So real, representative statistics simply can not be set. А як ви ставитеся до думки, що насправді нічого страшного не відбувається, просто ЗМІ роздувають «цікаву тему»?
When you think of the idea that nothing really terrible happens, just the media inflates "interesting topic"? Нічого це не «цікава тема».
Nothing is not "interesting topic". Так, кожного року ми маємо велику кількість хворих на грип із ускладненнями – тією ж пневмонією, менінгітом і так далі.
Yes, every year we have a large number of patients with flu complications - the same pneumonia, meningitis and so on. Але
But такого спалаху захворювань, як зараз, не пам'ятають навіть ті лікарі, які працюють вже дуже давно.
outbreaks of diseases such as now, do not remember even those doctors who are already very long. Інша справа, що не було можливості одразу зорієнтуватися, що коїться.
Another matter that was not possible immediately to navigate what is happening. Велика кількість хворих до нас почала надходити іще від початку минулого тижня, коли ще не було абсолютно ніякої інформації про новий вірус.
Many patients began to come to us even from the beginning of last week, when there was absolutely no information about the new virus. Вони надходили як хворі на звичайне запалення легенів.
They come as patients on regular pneumonia. Лише після того, як їх лікували звичними методами протягом декількох днів, а краще їм не ставало, стало зрозуміло, що йдеться про щось інше.
Only after they were treated as usual methods for several days, but rather they failed, it became clear that this is about something else. Окрім того, не можна навіть порівнювати вірус, з яким ми маємо справу сьогодні, із тими, що були у попередні роки.
In addition, you can not even compare the virus with which we deal today with those that were in previous years. Зараз хвороба часто перебігає справді блискавично, в людини миттєво починається сильна гарячка, вона просто гасне.
Now the disease often runs really lightning, the person immediately starts strong fever, she just goes. Можливо, при цьому ви вже встигли принаймні визначити якісь групи ризику людей, що особливо вразливі до цього вірусу?
Maybe while you have managed to identify at least some risk of people who are particularly vulnerable to this virus? Складно сказати.
Difficult to say. В нас основна частина хворих – це все ж таки молоді та діти.
We have the bulk of patients - is still young and children. Дуже мало є тих, кому за 40.
Very few are those over 40. Вразливі до цієї хвороби і вагітні – на сьогодні ми маємо чотирьох вагітних жінок у дуже важкому стані.
Vulnerable to the disease and pregnant women - today we have four pregnant women in very serious condition. Ви казали, що у лікарів не було змоги одразу зорієнтуватися, що йдеться про епідемію нового вірусу.
You said that doctors were not able to immediately sort out that question about the new virus epidemic. Значить, вони не могли вжити відповідних заходів безпеки?
So they could not take appropriate security measures? А ми і тепер їх вжити практично не можемо.
And now we take them almost can not. Скажімо, масок у достатній кількості нам просто не постачають.
For example, masks in sufficient quantity we simply do not deliver. Лікар повинен за 12 годин змінити як мінімум 6 масок.
The doctor has 12 hours to change a minimum of 6 Masks. Отже, їх потрібна просто незліченна кількість!
So, they need simply uncountable number! А ми не маємо, де їх узяти.
And we have no where to take them. Чи, наприклад, славетне «Таміфлю».
Now, the glorious "Tamiflu". До нас цей препарат надійшов лише у п'ятницю ввечері.
To us this drug acted only on Friday evening. З профілактичною метою потрібно вживати одну капсулу на день, не більш як 2 доби після контакту із хворим.
In order to take preventive one capsule a day, no more than 2 days after contact with patients. Хворий, до речі, повинен почати лікуватися ним не пізніше, як за 42 години після появи симптомів.
The patient, incidentally, must begin to treat him no later than 42 hours after onset of symptoms. Так от, те «Таміфлю», що до нас надійшло, призначене лише для хворих.
Well, that "Tamiflu", which came to us, is for patients. Для лікарів немає нічого.
For doctors there is nothing. Лише після того, як у нас захворіло двоє лікарів, то вдалося із величезним скандалом «вибити» декілька таблеток і для персоналу.
Only after the two of us sick of doctors, he managed a huge scandal "beat out" a few pills and staff. Що ж ви можете сказати про цей препарат?
What you can say about this product? Можу сказати, що у тих лікарів, про яких я казала, від нього почалися страшні побічні ефекти – сильна інтоксикація, нудота.
I can say that those doctors, about which I told him started terrible side effects - severe intoxication, nausea. Тож я особисто з профілактичною метою приймати «Таміфлю» не буду – краще вже забезпечуватися «народними» методами.
So I personally take preventive purpose "Tamiflu" will not - better already provided "folk" methods. Адже справа ще й у тому, що препарат наразі погано досліджений, і може мати ще багато інших шкідливих ефектів.
It is also the case that the drug is currently poorly studied, and may be much more harmful effects. Однак давайте уточнимо – тут я маю на увазі лише той препарат, який виробляє «Хоффман Ля Рош».
But let's specify - here I mean only those drugs that are produced by Hoffman La Roche. Про той, що випускається іншим виробником, я нічого сказати не можу, бо з ним не стикалася.
On the one produced by another manufacturer, I can not say anything, because with him not encountered. Як загалом виглядає у Львові ситуація з забезпеченням лікарень необхідними засобами для боротьби із цим вірусом?
As a whole the situation in Ukraine looks to hospitals providing the necessary tools to fight this virus? Складно.
Difficult. Частину ліків хворі досі змушені закуповувати самостійно.
Some medicines patients are still forced to buy their own. Що ж до персоналу, то про нього взагалі ніхто не піклується.
As for the staff, then do it no one cares. І це – при тому, що, за чутками, кожен четвертий лікар, що займається хворими на ГРЗ, заражається.
And that - despite the fact that, according to rumor, every fourth doctor, who is suffering from acute, infected. У нашій лікарні зараз із запаленням легенів лежить п'ятеро лікарів.
In our hospital with pneumonia now is five doctors. Фактично нас кинули, немов гарматне м'ясо на фронт, без будь-якої зброї.
In fact, we were thrown as cannon fodder to the front, without any weapons. Як же тоді бути із тим, що Юлія Тимошенко заявила: до епідемії грипу готувалися вже дуже давно і підійшли до неї у всеозброєнні?
How, then, be to the fact that Yulia Tymoshenko said: preparing for a flu epidemic has a very long time and came to her fully armed? Я дуже рада за урядовців, що вони підійшли до епідемії у всеозброєнні.
I am very happy with the government, they came to the epidemic in armed. Про нас цього сказати аж ніяк не можна.
About us say this is not possible. Якби лікарні справді були до чогось подібного готові, то такого, що зараз відбувається на Західній Україні, просто не було б.
If the hospital were really ready for something similar, then this is now happening in western Ukraine, just would not. До сьогодні (понеділок, 2 листопада –
Until today (Monday, November 2nd -- ) ми взагалі мали лише ту інформацію, що надходить по телевізору.
) We do have only the information that comes on TV. Досі ми не отримували жодних особливих розпоряджень у зв'язку із епідемією.
So far we have not received any special regulations in connection with the epidemic. Готуватися ми почали лише після того, як грім вже вдарив – фактично, самотужки.
Decks we started only after the thunder has struck - in fact, alone. Можливо, ви можете хоча б спрогнозувати, як довго триватиме ця епідемія?
Maybe you can even predict how long will this epidemic? Це спрогнозувати насправді неможливо.
It's really impossible to predict. Єдине, що я можу сказати – це те, що на неділю та понеділок в нашу лікарню надходило вже набагато менше хворих.
The only thing I can say - is that on Sunday and Monday at our hospital has received far fewer patients. У тяжкому стані за цей час вже ніхто не потрапляв.
In critical condition at this time nobody fell. А далі – побачимо.
And then - we'll see. Що ми можемо гарантувати – це лише те, що сьогодні ми маємо готові ліжка на випадок, якщо потрібно буде приймати нових пацієнтів.
What we can guarantee - it is just that today we are ready to bed in case you need to take new patients.http://translate.google.com/translate?hl....html%255C
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