19-11-2009, 05:17 PM
“Gentlemen, what sort(s) of evidence might satisfy? (Really. I'm not trying to play wise ass.) Thanks in advance,” said Mr. McGowan.
“Jan's two posts 19 and 19 above are as specific as one can get,” said Mr. Guyatt, ducking the above request.
So, let’s assume that Mr. Guyatt is not setting us up with his uncorrected typo, and look at Jan’s posts 17 and 19:
“Do you want to provide some sort of corroboration for LaRouche's inane claims that introducing the British system is fascism in action, leading to the killing of presumably a significant part of the population, to bailout Wall Street?”
A. Nowhere did Mr. McGowan use the phrase, ‘bailout Wall Street.’ He did say, "The Obama administration is protecting the HMOs [health maintenance organizations]." He did say, “these policies are intimately connected with the financial crisis,” and (quoting an LPAC article), “the London-Wall Street axis.” Jan has plastered that phrase, ‘bailout Wall Street,’ all over the place here, not McGowan. And then, Jan says, “This thread is not about Wall Street… If you want to discuss Wall Street…” Good grief.
By the way, do we all know that huge amounts of the U.S. taxpayers money from the bailout went across the Atlantic? That ain't Wall Street.
B. McGowan didn’t say, “introducing the British system,” he said, “…(fascist) austerity measures are being promulgated…”
C. Re Jan's, “words in inverted commas because they all have a special meaning to LaRouchies which requires translation for the rest of us” –
E. “The position of LaRouche presented by Gary McGowan is quite ridiculous and cannot be sustained.”
Perhaps McGowan failed to represent LaRouche's position accurately. McGowan did try to point the reader to LaRouche's (and colleagues’) own words, though.
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“Jan's two posts 19 and 19 above are as specific as one can get,” said Mr. Guyatt, ducking the above request.
So, let’s assume that Mr. Guyatt is not setting us up with his uncorrected typo, and look at Jan’s posts 17 and 19:
“Do you want to provide some sort of corroboration for LaRouche's inane claims that introducing the British system is fascism in action, leading to the killing of presumably a significant part of the population, to bailout Wall Street?”
A. Nowhere did Mr. McGowan use the phrase, ‘bailout Wall Street.’ He did say, "The Obama administration is protecting the HMOs [health maintenance organizations]." He did say, “these policies are intimately connected with the financial crisis,” and (quoting an LPAC article), “the London-Wall Street axis.” Jan has plastered that phrase, ‘bailout Wall Street,’ all over the place here, not McGowan. And then, Jan says, “This thread is not about Wall Street… If you want to discuss Wall Street…” Good grief.
By the way, do we all know that huge amounts of the U.S. taxpayers money from the bailout went across the Atlantic? That ain't Wall Street.
B. McGowan didn’t say, “introducing the British system,” he said, “…(fascist) austerity measures are being promulgated…”
C. Re Jan's, “words in inverted commas because they all have a special meaning to LaRouchies which requires translation for the rest of us” –
"fascist" – “Bullying by the corporate elite” fits pretty close. You can play philologist here.
"British" – In the tradition of Lord Palmerston and Jeremy Bentham, as opposed to that of Abe Lincoln, the Declaration of Independence, and the
Preamble to the Constitution (of the U.S.A.) Not intended to refer to the people of the U.K. or Britain in general, nor their legislators in general.
"austerity" – looting of the General Welfare to benefit and sustain the financial elite
D. Corroboration. McGowan pointed towards lots of it. McGowan can’t force you to consider it thoughtfully or discuss the history or more current reports or analyses presented there, especially in the video documentaries. "British" – In the tradition of Lord Palmerston and Jeremy Bentham, as opposed to that of Abe Lincoln, the Declaration of Independence, and the
Preamble to the Constitution (of the U.S.A.) Not intended to refer to the people of the U.K. or Britain in general, nor their legislators in general.
"austerity" – looting of the General Welfare to benefit and sustain the financial elite
E. “The position of LaRouche presented by Gary McGowan is quite ridiculous and cannot be sustained.”
Perhaps McGowan failed to represent LaRouche's position accurately. McGowan did try to point the reader to LaRouche's (and colleagues’) own words, though.
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