22-11-2009, 04:48 AM
Thanks for posting about this David, Helen and Susan :wavey:
There sure is a lot of politics and money behind all of global warming whether skeptical of it or accepting of it. It is a good example of divisions within the ruling classes but regardless of those divisions everyone wants to come out ahead wrt money and power. It seems that the initial upload and possibly hack was Russian. FWIW. That alone has a multitude of possibilities.
I've noticed there are more stories (which I have posted here) on the origin of oil being bacterial and not necessary from fossils. Therefore with the potential for it to be manufactured. No more peak oil.
I do think that there is such a thing as man made global warming and even if there isn't we can do no harm, environmentally, to move to a zero emmission culture. One only has to see the retreat of the glaciers and snow falls over London over the years of industrialization and the rising waters in some of the Pacific islands. Nevertheless I am not much of a fan of Al Gore. He is a charming and intelligent man according to friends who have met him and my own copy of 'An Inconvient Truth' comes from his own hand, but his share portfolio is/was allegedly heavy with petro-chemical industry investments and other decidedly non-green stuff. And I never could understand his capitulation to Bush in 2000.
In any case, all of the debate needs to be open and public. No secrets. Why should there ever be?
There sure is a lot of politics and money behind all of global warming whether skeptical of it or accepting of it. It is a good example of divisions within the ruling classes but regardless of those divisions everyone wants to come out ahead wrt money and power. It seems that the initial upload and possibly hack was Russian. FWIW. That alone has a multitude of possibilities.
I've noticed there are more stories (which I have posted here) on the origin of oil being bacterial and not necessary from fossils. Therefore with the potential for it to be manufactured. No more peak oil.
I do think that there is such a thing as man made global warming and even if there isn't we can do no harm, environmentally, to move to a zero emmission culture. One only has to see the retreat of the glaciers and snow falls over London over the years of industrialization and the rising waters in some of the Pacific islands. Nevertheless I am not much of a fan of Al Gore. He is a charming and intelligent man according to friends who have met him and my own copy of 'An Inconvient Truth' comes from his own hand, but his share portfolio is/was allegedly heavy with petro-chemical industry investments and other decidedly non-green stuff. And I never could understand his capitulation to Bush in 2000.
In any case, all of the debate needs to be open and public. No secrets. Why should there ever be?
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"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.
“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.