10-12-2009, 01:19 PM
Helen Reyes Wrote:Peter Lemkin Wrote:Read the book Climate Cover-Up and it will explain who is behind the hacking and today's 'Denmark Document'....
...its the game the tobacco industry invented all over again...
Except the tobacco lobby didn't fund the anti-smoking movements. Look, if Big Oil is behind the hacking and leaking of the Danish paper, it means they are funding and propagating both sides of the issue, which is possible, but I doubt it. And I automatically distrust any author who uses the term astroturf with a straight face to refer to fake grass-roots, Pelosi the extreme right-wing republican in the extreme right-wing republican Obama camp ruined any charm astroturf once held by, again, implying that opponents to the Obama health care package were paid mobs. The health care plan that ended up being: get private health insurance or we'll fine you AND put you in jail. See a pattern here? Pretend to represent the people, generate momentum and societal peer pressure, deliver what your financial ologiarchs expect. It's called fascism.
The tobacco industry invented [or perfected] the promotion [along with PR firms] of projecting doubt, when there was NONE in the scientific community; further in leading Americans to believe that science was just one of many voices on a subject. There was NO debate [doubt] that cigarettes caused cancer. There was [is] NO doubt that climate change now is anthropogenic! I could go on about GM foods, and many other things..... That the corporate fascist control network works [in part] 'both' sides is as they do in funding both 'sides' of the political [non] spectrum in the USA - to have total control. Obama, the USG, Corporate and Financial Powers, Deep Political Powers do NOT want any meaningful changes on climate change [and the profits they make producing it] etc. In my field [and as documented in the book mentioned [astroturf not withstanding!], one has to search for years to find more than two Environmental Scientists that are not owned by the coal, oil, corporate, financial, deep-political, military interests to find ANY who think there is any doubt about the dangers and anthropogenic cause of current global climate changes [and other environmental horrors!]. Of course, they want to control the debate, the spin and the outcome.......was it ever otherwise?...don't be fooled! :ciao:
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"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass