10-04-2010, 03:11 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-04-2010, 03:32 PM by Peter Lemkin.)
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote:Yes Jan, the symbolism is immense. The Russian press are making a big point of the likelihood of pilot error while all the western press are eulogizing the Prime Minister. It could well be that Putin has started an undeclared war as it seems. It may also be pilot error or it could be the west making a point or two, as usual, perhaps to the Ukraine. And they haven't had all their own way in Poland either. But I would be surprised if it was them.
The Lubyanka suicide bombers.
The overthrow of the government of Krygyzstan.
The death of the Polish President and military top brass in Russia.
All these events may be as they seem on the surface: Chechen terrorist bombs; a spontaneous people's revolt against govt austerity measures; pilot error.
Equally, each could be a move in a grand geopolitical chessgame, now involving Bishops and Knights rather than Pawns.
I have little doubt that the world's intelligence agencies are interpreting all these events as primarily geopolitical and probably sinister.
Let us not forget what Putin's 'old job description' was!! I think you are likely correct Jan, this is the way 'wars' are often waged now - secretly - not 'declared' - that is now passe' [except for the U$A]...The symbolism is NOT lost on the Poles. Walesa had a memorable quote on this, I'll try to find. The plane had just been serviced, even if it was a bit old and not the best type of aircraft. I doubt however the Russians will do any better an investigation that the U$A did on Dallas or Sept. 11. Here in the Czech Republic, not far from Poland at all [one summer I lived in the Krkonose Mts. and every day went for a walk with my dog to Poland - on the other side of the highest peaks] it has had a very chilling effect. Yesterday, here in Prague, the Presidents of Russia and the U$A signed a Potemkin Village Treaty on Nuclear Arms. Today, this. Nice timing. It has just been announced that Putin, himself, will head the investigation into the crash.....:goodnight:
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