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The MK-ULTRA iceberg
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Ed Jewett Wrote:The ethical consent issue -- at least among members of the US military -- is a moot point since, if memory serves me -- and I can probably dig out the reference if necessary -- that under Rumsfeld (the ex-CEO of Searle then SecDef) and as anointed by Cheney hunting partner, yon Supreme SCOTian Scalia, members of the US military have no recourse if guinea-pigged during their service. Actually, I think the reference is already here under bio-chemical warfare; I recall it was one of the first posts made here by me -- indirectly, by Magda -- if memory is still intact.

I know what you're talking about, Ed.

However, with respect, I'm not sure I'd describe the ethical consent point as "moot" just because the US military has attemped to write a clause into soldiers' contracts that the Pentagon can experiment on them in any fashion it likes. I'd describe such a clause as inherently unethical, and clearly capable of being overridden by international human rights law.

Except, silly me, I forgot that the Yankees don't recognize international human rights courts.

Plus, Rumsfeld and Cheney were the criminals directly responsible for covering up the murder of Frank Olson once he, inconveniently, rediscovered his moral conscience and made preparations to disclose unethical, terminal, human experiments.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
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"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

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The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Jan Klimkowski - 30-10-2008, 05:31 PM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Jan Klimkowski - 31-10-2008, 10:12 PM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Myra Bronstein - 01-11-2008, 08:43 AM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Myra Bronstein - 01-11-2008, 09:10 AM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Peter Lemkin - 01-11-2008, 11:07 AM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Magda Hassan - 01-11-2008, 11:34 AM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Peter Lemkin - 01-11-2008, 12:54 PM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Jan Klimkowski - 01-11-2008, 02:11 PM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Jan Klimkowski - 01-11-2008, 02:48 PM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Myra Bronstein - 02-11-2008, 10:36 AM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by David Guyatt - 02-11-2008, 11:56 AM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Jack White - 02-11-2008, 04:29 PM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Jan Klimkowski - 29-04-2009, 07:13 PM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Jan Klimkowski - 29-04-2009, 07:16 PM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Jan Klimkowski - 29-04-2009, 07:33 PM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Jan Klimkowski - 29-04-2009, 10:27 PM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Peter Presland - 10-08-2009, 08:31 PM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Jan Klimkowski - 10-08-2009, 09:53 PM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Peter Presland - 11-08-2009, 10:40 AM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Magda Hassan - 11-08-2009, 11:02 AM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Jan Klimkowski - 11-08-2009, 06:43 PM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Keith Millea - 25-10-2009, 06:58 PM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Ed Jewett - 24-11-2009, 04:05 AM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Jan Klimkowski - 24-11-2009, 09:16 PM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by John Bevilaqua - 12-12-2009, 12:11 AM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by John Bevilaqua - 12-12-2009, 12:19 AM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Ed Jewett - 12-12-2009, 01:57 AM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Ed Jewett - 13-12-2009, 01:35 AM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by John Bevilaqua - 13-12-2009, 01:50 AM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Jan Klimkowski - 13-12-2009, 11:09 AM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Ed Jewett - 13-12-2009, 04:52 PM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by David Guyatt - 14-12-2009, 03:10 PM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Ed Jewett - 14-12-2009, 06:02 PM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by David Guyatt - 14-12-2009, 07:32 PM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by John Bevilaqua - 14-12-2009, 08:53 PM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Ed Jewett - 12-05-2010, 10:51 PM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Ed Jewett - 12-05-2010, 10:58 PM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Magda Hassan - 13-05-2010, 12:58 AM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Ed Jewett - 13-05-2010, 01:23 AM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Jan Klimkowski - 13-05-2010, 06:10 PM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Ed Jewett - 13-05-2010, 06:57 PM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Jan Klimkowski - 13-05-2010, 07:12 PM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Ed Jewett - 14-05-2010, 12:55 AM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Ed Jewett - 19-05-2010, 06:06 PM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Jan Klimkowski - 19-05-2010, 07:19 PM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Bernice Moore - 02-08-2011, 02:58 AM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Magda Hassan - 26-12-2012, 01:54 AM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Peter Lemkin - 26-12-2012, 09:04 AM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Danny Jarman - 27-07-2013, 05:23 PM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Magda Hassan - 08-11-2013, 12:42 AM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Carsten Wiethoff - 08-11-2013, 08:04 AM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Magda Hassan - 08-11-2013, 12:26 PM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by David Guyatt - 08-11-2013, 12:57 PM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Peter Lemkin - 21-03-2014, 05:33 PM
The MK-ULTRA iceberg - by Peter Lemkin - 07-07-2014, 05:07 AM
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