Chemtrails

[Matthew Lewis]

The Kent/Lewis tag-team assault on Jack White happening here mirrors the tactic evident on the EF.

They begin politely, invite civil exchange, and then quickly sink to the default "attack" mode.

How does asking questions, (which are ignored) and presenting evidence (also ignored) constitute an attack exactly?

The broader agenda is to assault all conspiracy hypotheses with the weapons of pseudoscience, evasion, and ridicule.

Please show where I used any pseudoscience, evasion, and/or ridicule.

While some of their questions to Jack often may stand as valid scientific inquiry, K&L give away their shared game in many ways -- none more obvious than when they demonstrate feined ignorance.

Q. "Why don't they only spray at night?" [sic]

A. 1. Hide in plain (plane?) sight. 2. Operational necessity. 3. Support of "transparent conspiracy" strategy. 4. Some/all of the above.

Next, K&L treat us to a classic strawman fallacy:

Q. "A plane with a full load of passengers can’t carry the volume of liquid needed to spray these long paths you are seeing."

A. 1. There is no reason to believe that only commercial aircraft would be spraying. 2. The assumption that the "long paths" could be produced only by spraying large volumes of liquid is invalid due to the absence of information regarding the composition of the "paths."

I could go on and on ...

Please do because I am at a loss to know hwo I was involved with either of those questions. I have never met or seen Kent before seeing his posts on this forum.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a "Matthew Lewis" character is one of the EF's primary debunkers.

And? Is it against the rules to be a member of more than one forum? By saying "Matthew Lewis" character are you implying that is not my name? Any evidence for that?

Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the ether ...

How is it not exactly? What have I done except try to ask questions and provide evidence?

Jack White is my friend. He is also a man full grown who must defend his own positions. No one on this forum is out to protect Jack from legitimate criticism.

Yet he seems unwilling or unable to actually defend his own positions. I would LOVE for him to do so. I would LOVE to have actual discussion with him about this issue.

Nonetheless, something stinks about the Kent/Lewis attacks. And I assure you, I'm not the only one who has their scent.

Again, how have I attacked ANYONE exactly?
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The following is reprinted from one of my previous posts (May 26, 2010):

Chemtrail debunkers are quick to note that long, lingering, widely spreading "contrails" occur due to various -- and presumably predictable and consistent -- combinations of altitude, temperature, relative humidity, other meteorological conditions, engine performance parameters, fuel mixtures, etc.

The familiar shorter, quickly dissipating, and therefore ostensibly benign phenomena too are dependent on similar factors.

It would stand to reason, then, that over the course of any 12-month span and absent contributing factors not present during the previous 12 months in which contrails of diverse appearance were observed and noted from a fixed location, we should see consistently diverse patterns in the skies.

Here's the problem: For the past year, daytime observations of classic "chemtrails" from my fixed observation point have all but ceased. In the previous year, the "chemtrails" were present on an almost daily basis.

To my knowledge, flight paths have not been altered (I'm under flights from Boston, Hartford, and Providence airports). I have no way of knowing if changes have been made in altitude, fuel composition, engine configuration and performance, etc.

Again to my knowledge, there has been zero meaningful fluctuation in weather patterns.

Further, my observations have not diminished in terms of quantity or quality.
So if "chemtrails" are in fact "contrails" ... Where the hell are they now?

You state yourself "to your knowledge" there have been zero meaningful fluctuation in weather patterns. Have you looked at the weather at 30,000+ feet or just that on the ground? Do you realize that the two have very little to do with each other? It is possible (although I can not say for sure) that changes in altitude, fuel composition, engine configuration and performance, etc. have been made. I don't know.

What I do know is EVERY "chemtrail" picture or video I've ever seen can be explained by the long known science behind contrails. I also know that what believers call "chemtrails" can be seen in photos, videos and descriptions in newspapers dating back to WWII and before yet "chemtrail" believers say they didn't start until the late 90's. I know that science says that contrails can and do persist given the right conditions.

I have presented evidence to show these and I am accused of attacks. This is exactly why I waited a year to make my first post on this board. I knew this forum was started by some who used to post at the Education Forum. I didn't like everything that happened there to cause and continue the rift (from both sides) and decided to wait and see what the general feeling of this board was. So far it isn't good.

My further personal evidence is that there are no contrails (persistent or not) or "chemtrails" if you must call them that, in my present location of Panama City, FL. Nor were there any the last time I lived here 5 years ago. I know that the vast majority of commercial traffic is routed around this area due to the multiple military airspaces located here used for training of fighter aircraft for Tyndall AFB and Eglin AFB. I know that military training for fighters involves briefing the known contrail formation altitudes (they can be predicted) so they can be avoided (contrails of any sort only help an enemy to spot you) If there was a mass spraying campaign why would they avoid this area? It is open to military traffic and even commercial traffic with coordination. The reason that makes the most logical sense (to me anyway but I'm open to suggestions) is that what is claimed as "chemtrails" are in fact contrails produced by primarily high flying commercial aircraft. Those aircraft are absent in this location.

Is it "possible" there is a worldwide spraying program with possibly nefarious purposes? Sure. Have I seen anything yet that can't be explained by contrail science? No.

Would you like to comment on the evidence I posted in my last post?