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Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza
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Quote:and the local GAZA press (evidently the ONLY press in there at the moment) reliable-valuable disinterested resource?

Some threads just need a bit perspective (this case, the bashed side of the conflict speaks out...)
What perspective is that? The Israeli government party line is being spread all over the MSM. It's not like they haven't got an outlet for their propaganda. I don't feel inclined to give them any more space here especially given their relationship to the truth is debatable and can only be maintained through sophistry and much sommersaulting mentally and ethically.

Well, its the Israeli military keeping out the media. If they want a different perspective they better let others in there to observe what has been happening. They cannot complain about the coverage if they are not letting in any one to cover the crimes. They wont even let the Red Cross in. As for the Gaza press they are at least there (well they can't even leave) and are eye witnesses to the horror.

Even with out the media coverage it is clear the actions of the IDF amount to genocide. The people of Gaza are being starved, terrorised, ghettoised, economically impoverished and blockaded, imprisoned, threatened with extermination, denied medical treatment.

Hamas is not my idea of a representative government either but that is who the Palestinians chose to represent them in fair and open elections in 2006 observed by outsiders and they do at least put food on the tables of Palestinians. Hamas are also a creation of the Israeli secret services. They were used to create divisions in PLO/Fatah to weaken and split the Palestinian political leadership. Successfully. Israel reaps what it sowed both what it wanted and the unintended outcomes. The realitiy is that Hamas and the Palestinians can and will live with Israelis and Jews as people but they cannot be denied their own future to determine in their own homeland. The Palestinians have been continuously resident in this area for several thousand years and aren't going anywhere. Israel just has to deal that that tiny fact.
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Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Peter Lemkin - 27-12-2008, 10:33 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Magda Hassan - 28-12-2008, 06:57 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Peter Lemkin - 28-12-2008, 10:29 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Mark Stapleton - 28-12-2008, 05:08 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Myra Bronstein - 28-12-2008, 08:46 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Keith Millea - 29-12-2008, 06:21 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Peter Lemkin - 29-12-2008, 06:26 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Myra Bronstein - 30-12-2008, 05:33 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Mark Stapleton - 30-12-2008, 07:01 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by David Guyatt - 30-12-2008, 10:20 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Myra Bronstein - 30-12-2008, 04:26 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Myra Bronstein - 30-12-2008, 04:43 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Mark Stapleton - 31-12-2008, 05:30 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Myra Bronstein - 31-12-2008, 09:02 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Mark Stapleton - 01-01-2009, 12:25 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Magda Hassan - 01-01-2009, 03:54 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by David Healy - 01-01-2009, 06:56 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by David Guyatt - 01-01-2009, 07:05 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by David Healy - 01-01-2009, 08:12 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Magda Hassan - 02-01-2009, 01:51 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Peter Lemkin - 02-01-2009, 08:52 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by David Healy - 02-01-2009, 06:40 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by David Healy - 02-01-2009, 06:45 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Myra Bronstein - 03-01-2009, 08:41 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by David Guyatt - 03-01-2009, 10:19 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Damien Lloyd - 04-01-2009, 04:59 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Damien Lloyd - 04-01-2009, 05:36 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by David Healy - 04-01-2009, 07:01 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Damien Lloyd - 04-01-2009, 07:20 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Myra Bronstein - 04-01-2009, 07:38 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by David Healy - 04-01-2009, 08:29 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by David Healy - 04-01-2009, 08:39 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Myra Bronstein - 04-01-2009, 09:04 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Terry Mauro - 04-01-2009, 09:20 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by David Healy - 05-01-2009, 01:38 AM
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Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Mark Stapleton - 05-01-2009, 02:14 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Myra Bronstein - 05-01-2009, 02:25 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Mark Stapleton - 05-01-2009, 02:36 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Myra Bronstein - 05-01-2009, 02:41 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Mark Stapleton - 05-01-2009, 06:36 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Peter Lemkin - 05-01-2009, 07:37 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Mark Stapleton - 05-01-2009, 08:37 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Magda Hassan - 05-01-2009, 08:55 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Magda Hassan - 05-01-2009, 08:58 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Magda Hassan - 05-01-2009, 09:02 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by David Guyatt - 05-01-2009, 02:44 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Myra Bronstein - 05-01-2009, 08:15 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by David Healy - 05-01-2009, 08:46 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by David Healy - 05-01-2009, 08:58 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Magda Hassan - 05-01-2009, 11:56 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Myra Bronstein - 06-01-2009, 01:05 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Myra Bronstein - 06-01-2009, 01:05 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by David Healy - 06-01-2009, 01:17 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Magda Hassan - 06-01-2009, 01:45 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Mark Stapleton - 06-01-2009, 04:35 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Magda Hassan - 06-01-2009, 05:34 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by David Guyatt - 06-01-2009, 10:17 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Magda Hassan - 06-01-2009, 10:27 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Magda Hassan - 06-01-2009, 12:35 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by David Guyatt - 06-01-2009, 04:14 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Terry Mauro - 06-01-2009, 05:05 PM
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Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by David Healy - 08-01-2009, 09:38 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Magda Hassan - 08-01-2009, 12:59 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by David Guyatt - 08-01-2009, 03:27 PM
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Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Mark Stapleton - 10-01-2009, 02:26 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Magda Hassan - 10-01-2009, 04:04 AM
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Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Peter Lemkin - 10-01-2009, 01:26 PM
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Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Myra Bronstein - 10-01-2009, 09:06 PM
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Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by David Healy - 14-01-2009, 07:22 PM
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Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by David Healy - 15-01-2009, 12:23 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Mark Stapleton - 15-01-2009, 01:06 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Damien Lloyd - 15-01-2009, 02:24 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by David Guyatt - 15-01-2009, 01:03 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Mark Stapleton - 15-01-2009, 01:55 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Myra Bronstein - 15-01-2009, 02:18 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Myra Bronstein - 15-01-2009, 03:40 PM
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Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Terry Mauro - 17-01-2009, 11:46 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Magda Hassan - 18-01-2009, 06:22 AM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Myra Bronstein - 18-01-2009, 06:33 AM
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Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Peter Lemkin - 21-01-2009, 09:50 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Magda Hassan - 22-01-2009, 12:37 PM
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Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Magda Hassan - 24-01-2009, 12:37 AM
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Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Peter Lemkin - 30-01-2009, 05:24 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Peter Lemkin - 02-02-2009, 04:52 PM
Israel On Killing Spree In Gaza - by Mark Stapleton - 12-02-2009, 07:13 AM
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