Will WikiLeaks unravel the American 'secret government'?

[Peter Lemkin]

Good work there Peter! Some good friends of Deep Politics forum are also arranging a mirror site. Members here and visitors are welcome to contribute to it but I'll be sending out some PMs and emails for this also. There are over 1600 mirrors last time I looked. And it is all good.

Whatever Assange's or others in Wikileaks views of events like JFK or 9-11 are there is always the hope and possibility that people with information on these will now avail themselves of this growing forest of mirrors and sites and tell what they know, with proofs.

Exactly Peter. It is there to use and that alone is worth supporting.

I agree.

What I found disappointing in the video documentary was the declared experience with all the leaks to date - that's very much including the pre-2010 stuff. Assange says that the original intent was to post the raw information in the expectation that others would jump on it disseminate it and write hard-hitting articles about it. Apart from a few notable exceptions (Trafigura, BNP membership list, Sarah Palins emails etc) it really didn't happen. That's the explanation for turning to the MSM with such massive volume and I found that quite plausible.

There is still masses of stuff on the older leaks and I'm working away at getting some of it up on WikiSpooks and producing a browsable mirror of all the torrents which are currently only available as a bulk zipped archive download. The whole lot is still readily accessible if you go looking for it though and it's disappointing that so little appears to have been done on what is still a treasure trove of leaked information.

Peter, What you are doing [and others like you] is great. My big fear now is that those who would want all this to go away and to hide such information will start [if they have not already] to set up Wikileak-like websites to 'suck up' and hide forever information; perhaps even being able to locate the leaker - rather than to keep them anonymous. It really is the beginning of very ugly [I fear] cyberwarfare. Soon it will really be a matter [if it isn't already] of who to believe/trust. I agree, that the Wikileak model of giving to the MSM alone was not a good one. Sure, if they'd take parts of it fine, but I'd rather see alternative media and individuals who take a story and run with it. The whole internet and spread of information has taken a huge change at warp speed - and there will be forceful efforts to see that such information is buried and those who propagate or leak it put away and the keys thrown away. I'd also like to see more leaks on Corporations, polluters, banks, illegal financial happenings, drugs, etc. et al. Open up the whole Beast and lay it bare......the only way to kill it.....before it kills us all.

As to all the conspiracy notions on Wikileaks and Assange, I don't dismiss them as impossible, I only don't see the evidence and can find alternate explanations. In brief, much of what Wikileaks has on the USG seems to have come from one brave young man [who needs a medal of honor - but will likely spend his life in prison, if not executed]; those with top-secret and above information might well not have trusted Wikileaks protecting them as a source - and that might still be a worry. Things may yet change faster and further than we all think. It is a VERY fluid situation. One think I sense is real nervousness and fear on the part of the USG and other governments. I don't think it is staged. But again, anything is possible. I'm more worried about the new break-away from Wikileaks IF it is true that they will not publish the documents, but only give them to media sources to write about......that seems like a worrying model, but it is not clear exactly what they have in mind. As they go online in two days, we don't have long to wait. I also await Wikileaks Bank release which is about 2-3 weeks away. We live in interesting times.