03-01-2011, 07:12 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-01-2011, 08:02 PM by Robert Morrow.)
Phil Dragoo Wrote:Oswald enlisted in 1956 and became an undercover intelligence operative for ONI, CIA and FBI.
His file was manipulated by Angleton; his movements by Agency handoffs which included Banister and DeMohrenschildtand his last call was to Hurt in North Carolina.
The patsy was Agency.
That would be Dulles, who manipulated Kennedy with the Bay of Pigs invasion, intending to extort involvement of U.S. forces by means of public opinion supporting the invasion's beachhead.
Dulles pupil Bundy cancelled the last raid on the Castro jets, insuring disaster.
Upon Dulles' firing, his pupils the Bundy brothers ascended to National Security Advisor to the President and Undersecretary of Defense at the White House.
Greg Burnham deems Bundy the likely author of the draft NSAM 273, a telltale of the war made possible by the assassination.
Bundy icy as the blood-red carpet is rolled out in the Oval Office per Moynihan there with Sorenson in the essay "It's Over."
Helms in Vietnam for the Diem coup, with Bundy and his deputies advising Lodge to proceed, a mutiny in progress.
For this is the way of U.S. Government: the national security establishment runs the world, changes governments, involves and disengages, and the president must get with the program.
Douglass masterfully showed Kennedy marked out for assassination for having amassed a criticality of "Bay of Pigs" type impasses with this establishment.
When the time came, the Vice President was amenable, being under threat of being dropped from the 1964 ticket and subject to investigation in the Billy Sol Estes and Bobby Baker scandals.
The Director of the FBI was amenable. He loathed the Kennedys. They had threatened to retire him by refusing him the waiver.
The General Counsel of Treasury, acting Secretary of the Treasury on the Big Day, was married to the Bundy sister Harriet. And the Secret Service was amenable. Per Abraham Bolden they boasted of their hate for the traitor, the "nigger-lover", boasted they would let Kennedy be assassinated. And Palamara has them dead to rights for blatant security stripping.
The Warren Commission was likely a brainchild of Bundy to Katzenbach to Moyers.
Dulles and McCloy and Ford the active members, and Rankin the protege of Hoover.
Ford figured in the future, beyond Nixon.
All the killing to prepare for Nixon in 1968, King and Bobby. And after Nixon, Ford, and Ford named Rockefeller Vice President and put him in charge of investigating CIA, and put GHWBush in as DCI.
The 35th was not down with the program. Ike had been, all too amenable to letting Nixon run that side of it, who let that Bay of Pigs thing be run by CIA.
And its doom was Kennedy's doom.
Johnson begged, "No mas!" March 1968, believing Uncle Walter the CIA Steppinfetchit who called Tet for the North.
Lo and behold the very next month King is down. The next month Bobby is down.
LBJ. King. Bobby.
And Nixon sweeps in.
And Hoover heart attacks in 1972. Johnson in 1973. Nixon is sabotaged by the CIA and does his "effective noon tomorrow" August 8, 1974.
Enter Ford to name Rockefeller and Bush to key positions.
And the band plays on to this very day in the poppy fields of Junkistan.
The silver train ain't stopping for any temporary resident of the White House.
Johnson is not Holmes' Professor Moriarity, nor Sax Rohmer's Fu Manchu.
He strutted and fretted his time upon the stage and was sandbagged by the Langley stagehands' union.
No salvo, volley or fusillade of insult and belittlement, no filibuster of multiple postings can promote a mere facilitator to the position of prime mover.
And if E. Howard Hunt says it was Johnson, it wasn't.
As surely as the sun will brighten the eastern horizon tomorrow morning.
That is an excellent recap by Phil Dragoo. A few quick points - E. Howard Hunt ALSO said that the CIA killed John Kennedy. Is that not true, too? Remember, E. Howard Hunt is confessing all this stuff to his SON St. John Hunt, not the public at large. So I think Hunt is a lot more trustworthy in these conversations. Saint John was the one of helped his dad destroy evidence, as Hunt was covering up for Watergate. I think Hunt was basically being true with St. John, but it seems that he was protecting himself ("backbencher, my butt!), Allen Dulles, Helms and Angleton.
Hunt's semi-confession reminds me of LBJ telling Madeleine Brown that it was Texas oil and the CIA who murdered John Kennedy, but leaving himself out of the mix. Hunt and LBJ were both far more involved than they let on.
Secondly, Bill Bundy who came in after JFK's death - he was the one who DRAFTED THE GULF OF TONKIN RESOLUTION! Of course that was the carte blanche resolution, based on lies, that really got the USA deeply involved in the Vietnam War.
Another thing that folks seem to FORGET are the close ties of Lyndon Johnson and his key supporters like Clint Murchison, Sr. to the white hot core of US intelligence: folks like Allen Dulles, Nelson Rockefeller, and John J. McCloy.
The odds are extremely high that LBJ and Murchison, Sr. were lobbying folks like Allen Dulles, Nelson Rockefeller to get the machinery of the CIA to murder John Kennedy. Folks like Ed Lansdale, Richard Helms, James Angleton and it now seems likely McGeorge Bundy would carry out these orders from the ultra-rich, connected shadow government elite of Texas oil barons and the Rockefellers. That is your JFK assassination, not some mid level plot by the CIA!
Check out this Newsweek piece by Henry Kissinger on McGeorge Bundy -
Henry Kissinger was the right hand man of Nelson Rockefeller. Kissinger, if I am correct was going to Bilderberger conferences in the 1950's. Kissinger writes "McGeorge Bundy was the dean of faculty when I was at Harvard."
READ this article:
http://www.newsweek.com/2008/10/24/what-...es-us.html
In Seymour Hersh's the price of power, there is a very snotty comment by Kissinger coming to a meeting in the White House, and only JFK and Bobby being served soup and no one else. Reminds me of Allen Dulles' comment: "That little Kennedy … he thought he was a god."
So you have the Bundys being acolytes of Allen Dulles (am I correct or incorrect on that point?; I have not studied it much). And you have Kissinger as a key right hand man to Republican Nelson Rockefeller, WHO Democrat Lyndon Johnson secretly supported for president in spring, 1968.
Do not overlook the relationships of Lyndon Johnson and Clint Murchison to key players like Allen Dulles, Nelson Rockefeller, and John J. McCloy. Because if you do, you a missing out on a key reason the JFK assassination was allowed to happen.
And also fast forward to the 1980's when George Herbert Walker Bush and Henry Kissinger were running elite, highest level "executive action" assassination squads. Read all about that by googling "Chip Tatum Pegasus." One of the founders of this forum David Guyatt can tell you ALL about Chip Tatum and why he is so important because he gives us a window into how the world's most powerful mafia operates.
http://www.google.com/search?q=chip+tatum+pegasus&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=
Here is another nugget: letter of Prescott Bush to Clover Dulles, the widow of Allen Dulles, in 1969. Note how BITTER Prescott Bush is towards the Kennedys (both of whom had been assassinated by 1969):
"He [Allen] tried to make a pleasant evening of it, but I was rather sick of heart, and angry too, for it was the Kennedy's that brought about the fiasco. And here they were making Allen to be the goat, which he wasn't and did not deserve. I have never forgiven them."
http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/prescott.htm
So the Bushes were close friends with the Allen Dulles family ... and they both (Prescott Bush, Allen Dulles) hated John Kennedy. And folks *wonder* why folks like me think that age 39 George Herbert Walker Bush was deeply involved in the JFK assassination ...
One MORE key point, in summer 1963 John J. McCloy went hunting whitewing doves with Clint Murchison, Sr. "That summer McCloy relaxed more than he had in years. He hunted whitewings with Clint Murchison on the Texas oil man's Mexico farm." (p. 542, Kai Bird, The Chairman: John J. McCloy and the making of the American Establishment). That is Clint Murchison, LBJ's biggest patron, spending a leisurely week on his Mexican ranch with John J. McCloy, Rockefeller emissary, chairman of the CFR from 1953-1970, deep intelligence from OSS days - both friends with Allen Dulles.
Hey, what do you think they (Murchison and McCloy) were saying about the Kennedys that week? Anyone want to venture a guess? Answer they were both extremely unhappy with what the Kennedys were doing.
And what was the mood at the Murchison household AFTER the JFK assassination, while Khrushchev was crying, Castro was worried? ...the Murchison family maid May Newman describes the scene: "The mood in the Murchison family home was very joyous and happy. For a whole week after like champagne and caviar flowed, every day of the week. But I was the only one in that household at that time that felt any grief for his assassination."