Nelson's LBJ Mastermind book

[Charles Drago]

A few quick points - E. Howard Hunt ALSO said that the CIA killed John Kennedy. Is that not true, too?

No.

Your analysis suffers from superficiality commonly associated with failing students in 101 courses.

The CIA "killed John Kennedy" the same way the hammer built the White House.

Hunt was fucking with us, giving us a limited hang-out, reinforcing the simple-minded notion that the CIA was a Sponsor, rather than a Facilitator's tool, in the JFK hit.

He further attempted to support the absurd appreciation of the CIA as a monolithic entity without severe ideological fracture lines.

And you and Nelson and, I fear, my friend Jim F. are buying it all.

Grow up.

Remember, E. Howard Hunt is confessing all this stuff to his SON St. John Hunt, not the public at large. So I think Hunt is a lot more trustworthy in these conversations.

A totally worthless, sophistic argument.

Saint John was the one of helped his dad destroy evidence, as Hunt was covering up for Watergate. I think Hunt was basically being true with St. John, but it seems that he was protecting himself ("backbencher, my butt!), Allen Dulles, Helms and Angleton.

SINgin "helped his dad." As usual, you've failed to get beyond a Leave it to Beaver level of intellectual engagement.

Another thing that folks seem to FORGET is the close ties of Lyndon Johnson and his key supporters like Clint Murchison, Sr. to the white hot core of US intelligence: folks like Allen Dulles, Nelson Rockefeller, and John J. McCloy.

Define "close ties." Explain why you include NR in a discussion of the "hot core of US intelligence." Dazzle us with your insight.

On second thought, don't. One more belly laugh and I'll need a truss.

The odds are extremely high that LBJ and Murchison, Sr. were lobbying folks like Allen Dulles, Nelson Rockefeller to get the machinery of the CIA to murder John Kennedy. Folks like Ed Lansdale, Richard Helms, James Angleton and it now seems likely McGeorge Bundy would carry out these orders from the ultra-rich, connected shadow government elite of Texas oil barons and the Rockefellers.

Now why would an all-powerful "mastermind" need to "lobby" anyone? Shouldn't he be expected to snap his fingers and watch the world do his bidding?

Defend your placement of "Texas oil barons" within the "shadow government." Define "shadow government." Defend your lateral positioning of Clint Murchison and Nelson Rockefeller.

On second thought, don't.

You are, miraculously, correct about one thing: Phil Dragoo's analysis is superb -- especially the following:

"Johnson is not Holmes' Professor Moriarity, nor Sax Rohmer's Fu Manchu.

"He strutted and fretted his time upon the stage and was sandbagged by the Langley stagehands' union.

"No salvo, volley or fusillade of insult and belittlement, no filibuster of multiple postings can promote a mere facilitator to the position of prime mover.

"And if E. Howard Hunt says it was Johnson, it wasn't."

All of which puts the lie to Nelson. And it exposes you -- once again -- as someone so dense that you can't see your executioner as he's putting the noose around your neck.