16-02-2011, 07:57 AM
Just the expected highjacking of the thread by trolls Charles and Jack, thanks to Phil's use of what a veteran told John Marks about the Agency never having used 'Manchurian Candidates' in operations, but he admitted that didn't really know. (The second footnote, the one with the dagger, at the bottom of p. 204 in my Norton edition.
Of course, the much more relevant experience is that of John Gittinger who explained away the operational use of quick induction hypnosis on apparently LHO in July 1963 in that Mexico City motel room. Gittinger, the protégé of Sid Gottlieb, was the Oklahoma psychologist who made "...a hard science out of personality assessment and how to use it to maniuplate people." (pp. 1920.)
Why Gittinger accepted to be interviewed by Marks was that he had to explain away the test on Oswald or there might be all hell to pay if the author just used the files on his own. (See the very last paragraph in the notes on p. 244 which recorded Gittinger's change of mind.)
Gittinger finally made out that the July 1963 attempt was still just a most belated test, though if it were, it could have been repeated by the same people, or Dr. George White could have been replaced by a consultant who could do the job. (pp. 201-2 in the Norton edition)
Why this was not successful was because LHO, it seems, refused to be hypnotized despite his so wanting the money because he was not willing to shoot JFK.
If he had, the whole subsequent history would have been far different.
For more about the Agency's operational use of 'Manchurian Candidates' in the assassinations of MLK, RFK, and Governor Wallace, see my article "Mind-Control Experiments and The Deadliest Secrets of the Cold War," in Issue Eight of Eye Spy magazine, pp. 50-55), an article with 23 references, and a well-known editorial board.
Case closed.
Of course, the much more relevant experience is that of John Gittinger who explained away the operational use of quick induction hypnosis on apparently LHO in July 1963 in that Mexico City motel room. Gittinger, the protégé of Sid Gottlieb, was the Oklahoma psychologist who made "...a hard science out of personality assessment and how to use it to maniuplate people." (pp. 1920.)
Why Gittinger accepted to be interviewed by Marks was that he had to explain away the test on Oswald or there might be all hell to pay if the author just used the files on his own. (See the very last paragraph in the notes on p. 244 which recorded Gittinger's change of mind.)
Gittinger finally made out that the July 1963 attempt was still just a most belated test, though if it were, it could have been repeated by the same people, or Dr. George White could have been replaced by a consultant who could do the job. (pp. 201-2 in the Norton edition)
Why this was not successful was because LHO, it seems, refused to be hypnotized despite his so wanting the money because he was not willing to shoot JFK.
If he had, the whole subsequent history would have been far different.
For more about the Agency's operational use of 'Manchurian Candidates' in the assassinations of MLK, RFK, and Governor Wallace, see my article "Mind-Control Experiments and The Deadliest Secrets of the Cold War," in Issue Eight of Eye Spy magazine, pp. 50-55), an article with 23 references, and a well-known editorial board.
Case closed.