23-02-2011, 01:31 PM
Albert Doyle Wrote:I personally feel what JFK was doing was presenting the offenses of communism in such a way as to make the comparisons to how it also applied to the CIA unavoidable.
Hey, this sort of thread is quite appropriately more about "feeling" than "knowing" --much as my threads in which I hypothesize about the nature of the Chicago operation and possible communist and/or Nazi entrapments of JFK are based upon and encourage the application of intuition.
Albert Doyle Wrote:What I found amazing in Unspeakable was the ingenious device Pope JohnXXIII used in his intervention in Pacem In Terris. The Pope did a similar thing as JFK and I think Douglass is hinting JFK might have followed his lead with some clever psychology. When Kennedy tried his Pacem In Terris in the form of the American University speech it didn't have the same effect and probably ended up getting him killed.
In re the John XXXV/John XX111 comparison: Wishful thinking, pleasant dream. And please don't demean JFK's 6/10/63 "and we are all mortal" speech by favorably comparing it to his earlier Cold War rhetoric being disected on this thread.
By the way, you don't have to sell me on either the spiritual content and power of the American University speech or its status as a death warrant.
Albert Doyle Wrote:Charles will cringe[.]/Quote:We've come to know each other well.
[quote=Albert Doyle]I believe a very sinister plot was happening where Oswald was going to be claimed to have shot Kennedy because he changed his word on Viet Nam as seen in NSAM 273.
CRINGING!
[quote=Albert Doyle]It makes sense to me that there was very likely a plan to use Kennedy's secret communications with Khrushchev to show Kennedy had lost his mind and gone into secret cooperation with the enemy ... I'm beginning to see a pattern in the conspiracy that suggests these people considered they were acting under some kind of valid legal definition.
Now you're on to something. Such has been my contention for some years now. But try to focus on your definition of "these people," and your exercise in applied imagination will begin to pay dividends.
In doing so, you'll begin to build a comprehensive model of the plot. As you use "these people" above, you logically should be referencing individuals within rabidly anti-communist elements of the U.S. military and intelligence communities (and perhaps elsewhere) who were critical components in the Grand Design but who needed a push over the final line.
Albert Doyle Wrote:I think Greg doesn't realize he may have uncovered much more than he thinks and that the real purpose of the NSAM 273 document manipulation wasn't just to allow escalation in Viet Nam but was a clever way to associate it with the reason for the assassination.
Albert, by this time I think you've come to know how much I value your participation here at DPF. But in this instance you're self-contradictory. The plotters at all cost would have avoided correlation between NSAM perfidy and the assassination.
Albert Doyle Wrote:Before Charles questions this (if he does) he should consider the other similar 'literary' devices seen in this assassination elsewhere.
Perhaps, before Albert advises Charles to "consider the other 'literary' devices" evident in this case, Albert should read Charles's work, as published here and elsewhere over the past 20 years, in which Charles has followed the lead of George Michael Evica and investigated the theatrical constructs of the Kennedy regicide.