06-03-2011, 05:41 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-03-2011, 10:25 PM by Jeffrey Orling.)
Lemkin,
There are many anomalies in the official story. There are clearly lies in it and lots of omissions and taken as a whole the official account and the NIST, FEMA, 911 Commission amount to a cover up.
So we have proof of a cover up by the government. On this most readers can agree.
We don't know who exactly is being covered by the story. We don't know why. We don't know how many people were caught with off guard and said stupid things or whether they were told to say them and so forth.
We don't even have the full set of "clean" evidence to examine. We've discovered all sorts of evidence tampering and so we might not even know what actually happened. When it was done we were shown a scar in the ground in PA, a collapsed section of the Pentagon which showed fire damage and the entire WTC campus destroyed and buildings near by damaged from the destruction of the WTC towers.
We were told planes hit these buildings in two metropolitan areas where millions of people were engaged in getting to work and on the roads... and we have painfully few reliable and consistent eye witness accounts of what people saw. CIT seems to have done some good work on that score at the pentagon.
The logical leap that most make is that there was a conspiracy which involved elements of the government other governments or intel, or rogue intel, the military, the media, wall street and all sorts of powerful elite who used 911 as a false flag to initiate an agenda to benefit all and other not mentioned "interests". While it seems plausible and likely is possible and as much as I want to believe this logic... I haven't seen the smoking gun connecting anyone to the decisions involved in the events or the cover ups.
Did Shyam Sunder and John Gross take orders from someone else to stall, falsify and produce garbage reports? Who gave them those marching orders? Did they hold staff meetings with their investigators and tell them.. Do X, Y and Z and don't to A, B and C?
We have some tantalizing tidbits which look very incriminating... Cheney's stand down orders... but we really don't have conclusive proof and we don't have a whistle blower which conclusively can prove the conspiracy which most people seem to think couldn't possible involve disgruntled crazed Islamists who dreamed of getting back at the Great Satan.
Will we ever get a real investigation? Likely no. Can we solve the crimes? Possibly... But we do need to sort out fact from fiction and be careful of abuse of logic and draw hasty conclusions as tempting as it may be.
Criminals cover their tracks and try to get someone else to take the wrap. This makes this problem doubly difficult.
There are many anomalies in the official story. There are clearly lies in it and lots of omissions and taken as a whole the official account and the NIST, FEMA, 911 Commission amount to a cover up.
So we have proof of a cover up by the government. On this most readers can agree.
We don't know who exactly is being covered by the story. We don't know why. We don't know how many people were caught with off guard and said stupid things or whether they were told to say them and so forth.
We don't even have the full set of "clean" evidence to examine. We've discovered all sorts of evidence tampering and so we might not even know what actually happened. When it was done we were shown a scar in the ground in PA, a collapsed section of the Pentagon which showed fire damage and the entire WTC campus destroyed and buildings near by damaged from the destruction of the WTC towers.
We were told planes hit these buildings in two metropolitan areas where millions of people were engaged in getting to work and on the roads... and we have painfully few reliable and consistent eye witness accounts of what people saw. CIT seems to have done some good work on that score at the pentagon.
The logical leap that most make is that there was a conspiracy which involved elements of the government other governments or intel, or rogue intel, the military, the media, wall street and all sorts of powerful elite who used 911 as a false flag to initiate an agenda to benefit all and other not mentioned "interests". While it seems plausible and likely is possible and as much as I want to believe this logic... I haven't seen the smoking gun connecting anyone to the decisions involved in the events or the cover ups.
Did Shyam Sunder and John Gross take orders from someone else to stall, falsify and produce garbage reports? Who gave them those marching orders? Did they hold staff meetings with their investigators and tell them.. Do X, Y and Z and don't to A, B and C?
We have some tantalizing tidbits which look very incriminating... Cheney's stand down orders... but we really don't have conclusive proof and we don't have a whistle blower which conclusively can prove the conspiracy which most people seem to think couldn't possible involve disgruntled crazed Islamists who dreamed of getting back at the Great Satan.
Will we ever get a real investigation? Likely no. Can we solve the crimes? Possibly... But we do need to sort out fact from fiction and be careful of abuse of logic and draw hasty conclusions as tempting as it may be.
Criminals cover their tracks and try to get someone else to take the wrap. This makes this problem doubly difficult.