23-04-2011, 06:15 PM
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:However, I'm not sure what you mean by a person "MK-ULTRA programming himself".
Well the context is I'm trying to describe the only way Chapman's actions could be innocently explained outside of CIA mind control. I personally think there's enough evidence to show CIA involvement. We all know how they work with the RFK assassination being a good example. What the average American idiot doesn't understand is that once you determine Bobby Kennedy was killed this way the chances Lennon was also killed this way become almost certain.
However what I'm trying to say is, technically, Chapman could have achieved the same mind-cracking result through LSD on his own. Once his mind was broken by LSD he had the particular peculiarity of being surrounded by christian/CIA authorities that would have induced this external control on their own just by penetrating Chapman's vulnerable psyche at a time when his mind was undergoing LSD-induced dementia. Just when Chapman was entertaining this magical Catcher In The Rye world he coincidentally had these YMCA, church group, and CIA at Fort Chaffee influences pouring in.
When younger people take-up the 60's grass and LSD lifestyle induced by rock 'n roll culture they take it seriously like a religion or cultural movement. They are vulnerable because they are at their formative stages psychologically. The epiphanies caused by LSD in those rock 'n roll adults caused a very cathartic idealistic state in those people that got voiced through their music and politics. This idealism is something young minds instantly identified with against the fucked-up world they were being prepared to be passed down. So people like Chapman, once realizing they had been dumped by the drug culture into a sordid existence, reached out to another idealistic institution in the form of organized religion. However Chapman still carried the LSD virus inside him. So being privy to this magical world Chapman internalized this true seeker status still carrying it on and seeing himself as a keeper of the faith. He would be able to see himself as practicing a purer form by cleansing it in christian religion while still holding that Catcher world inside. It's very complex but Chapman kept the inner 'Catcher' world sacred as what he knew as a child and trusted. This is where the "command hallucination" cited by psychiatrist Dorothy Lewis occurred. This inner world was surrounded by a normal christian institution shell that focused everything in towards this inner nuclear core and put the pressure on what maintained the illusion. Chapman was influenced by YMCA, church, police authorities, and christian politics, but when they were focused on this LSD-demented inner core they became an ever increasing psychotic monster growing inside Chapman. Chapman was a true servant of the original rock 'n roll faith but guiding it purely with unquestionable christian religion. Trusting the inner most faith inside him he saw this magic he was able to interpret as being a genuine form that others like Lennon had failed. This was, of course, magically illuminated to him by a special understanding of the real meaning of the words in 'Catcher In The Rye'. God had shown himself to him in the form of a special understanding of Catcher. Something known in the sober and sane world of psychiatry as a "command hallucination".
So the only way Chapman could have done this on his own would be if he possessed a particular borderline personality personal make-up where he was seriously mentally injured early-on with his high school drug use and then perpetuated that inside as he pressure cooked it with christian and personal development stress. His Catcher In The Rye inner world was a valuable life-long personal investment and commitment and embodiment of what was most valuable to him from his youth. It was sacred to him personally and magically validated by God-given personal miraculous understanding of divine messages sent to him in Catcher In The Rye. He had to serve it and act upon it because it was God. John Lennon failed it but Mark Chapman hadn't and Lennon therefore had to suffer biblical consequences for his failure. Chapman now embodied everything he imagined Lennon had stood for and by killing him would now take-over the cause.
This would be the only way that Mark Chapman could have MK-ULTRA programmed himself. His LSD-heightened sensibility would have made him more vulnerable to his surroundings and those surroundings just so happened to be southern christian, CIA, YMCA, police politics. So, in other words, in his psychologically-compromised condition, his surroundings would have taken the place of the CIA mind controllers in influencing his mind. This LSD-induced almost consciously hypnotic state would have been abnormally receptive to those external influences and fed them in to the inner core in a way that is normally prevented by psychological shields. This state is no different than temporary schizophrenia however it is much more dangerous because it is guided by valid real world motivations that would guide schizophrenic notions into real actions. The cultural/religious guiding tracks were all there in place and able to justify Chapman acting-out these insane fantasies.
Now that this is gotten over with, I'd like to say that Fenton Bresler showed serious evidence that this psychological phenomenon was manipulated by some very evil people. What I'd like to say is CIA is not staffed with idiots and if I can figure out this stuff so can they and they'd be the first people to manipulate it. As a matter of fact I'm almost 100% sure they did in the case of Mark David Chapman.

