13-02-2009, 09:58 PM
(This post was last modified: 14-02-2009, 07:04 AM by Kate Story.)
David Guyatt Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote:Bastards and criminals come in all religious flavors and none.
Very true. There are very many caring and civilized Jews as their are Catholics and members of other religions including Muslims. What we need to focus our attention on are the extremists, usually a small but vociferous minority in most religions, who preach hate and murder.
Over the years I have exercised discontent with the Vatican because it is a temporal power that claims to practice spiritual beliefs - and because it actually doesn't practice (and for all I know doesn't actually believe) what it preaches. This is distinct from the tens of millions of caring Catholics around the world who try to selflessly live their beliefs in carrying out good works in their community.
David, the Rabbi comment was made tongue in cheek and not meant to offend you. I am sorry that it did. Apparently my world is quite different from most members here. It is very difficult, if not impossible to give a clear view of areas and of people who are consumed with a religious doctrine. If you want to see how rabid evangelical/fundamentalism can be you can google John Hagee, if you can stomach him, and it should amaze you that thousands follow this man from his physical congregation and millions more by way to television.
I can promise you if you lived in the deep south and you asked almost any christian what they thought of the war between Israel and the Arabs they would not hesitate to tell you this is bible prophecy being fulfilled. They will also inform you that christians are told by god to bless and pray for Israel. They see no wrong with anything Israel does because they were once gods chosen. God took the covenant away from them and gave it to the christians but the christians are convinced they must be loyal to Israel in order to 'save' them at the end. I asked a fanatical zionist lady once what she thought of the little children dying in this battle and she said that the Arab children would just grow up to be devils so they were better off dying while they were innocent! Of course the Jewish children went to be with god but it was a sin that their lives were cut short.
This is the mindset in the twillight zone of fundamental fanaticism. From what I have see and heard all my life is there is no doubt that government and religion go hand in hand. Pastors influence their followers in many areas of life and politics is one of them. Do a google on 'FEMA using pastors' to keep them obedient to the government if martial law is enforced. The churches must keep that tax exempt status at any cost!