22-05-2011, 03:12 AM
Jeffrey Orling Wrote:There is no violation of any laws of thermodynamics in the phase II of the collapse.Again, while there inherently can't be any violation of the laws of physics in what physically happened, ill-conceived explanations for what happened can violate the laws of physics, Bazant's nonsense being one notable example. Are you incapable of comprehending that distinction?
Jeffrey Orling Wrote:And Kyle is correct is that I don't present a theory, but an explanation based in basic engineering concepts supported by the observations.I'd never suggest any explanation is "supported by the observations," as such a notion flies the the face of the scientific method. In science, observation is used to develop a hypothesis, while support for the proposed explanation comes through experimental confirmation.
Jeffrey Orling Wrote:I am not even sure why Kyle's objection is at this point to the engineering concepts which describe a gravity driven destruction from the plane strike zone down driven by the mass of the floors above the strike.Again, I contend that what you proclaim happened to the towers could not result in such rapid and complete destruction of a building, but rather something more along the lines of what can be seen in these simulations at best. Sure, if broken free the mass above can shred through the floors below, displacing columns along the way, but all that steel and concrete breaking apart and and pushing each-other around results in all sorts of angular momentum and friction which limits the amount of energy left to crush the remaining structure bellow, and which your notions of floors turning into a Landkreuzer tank and shredding through the building simply don't take into account.