A shot through the Elm St. Storm Drain: Myth or Reality?

[Bernice Moore]

Bernice


The passage which drew my attention to Fruge and Arcacha and the maps is within these three paragraphs in Jim DiEugenio's Bugliosi review Part 5 Section VII:




Smith was a close friend of David Ferrie and a clear associate of Guy Banister. As I have noted, he was also a beneficiary of the Friends of Democratic Cuba, which moved from the Balter Building to Clay Shaw's ITM. Smith once had a meeting in Banister's office with Banister, Gordon Novel and a man who strongly fits the description and profile of David Phillips. This was to arrange a broadcast telethon in New Orleans to raise funds for Smith's Howard Hunt backed group, the CRC. (The Assassinations, p. 231) When Smith's friend and colleague Carlos Quiroga took a polygraph for Garrison's office, there were three questions where the term 'deceptive criteria' registered on the machine. They were: 1.) Did you know Oswald's Fair Play for Cuba Committee was a cover operation? 2.) Prior to Kennedy's murder, did you see the weapons used in the assassination? And the capper in this regard, No. 3.) According to your knowledge, did Oswald know Sergio Arcacha Smith? (ibid p. 235) So according to Quiroga's test, Smith did know Oswald. And he knew him pretty well.

But it gets worse. When Richard Case Nagell was first interviewed by a representative of Garrison's office, he told him he had infiltrated the Kennedy plot in the summer of 1963. And he had a tape recording "of four voices in conversation concerning the plot ..." (Garrison Memo of 4/18/67)) The memo states that Nagell said openly that one of them was "Arcacha" and the other individual Nagell would only identify as "Q". (ibid) The former has to be Smith and the latter is probably Quiroga. If it was, then we know why he later flunked his polygraph.

In further opposition to the FBI denials about Smith and the assassination, Fruge once revealed to HSCA investigator Bob Buras a rather startling piece of information. During an interview, almost as a sidelight, Fruge offhandedly asked Buras if the Committee had found the diagrams of the sewer system in Dealey Plaza that were supposed to have been located in Sergio Arcacha Smith's apartment in Dallas. Now if Quiroga thought he saw the weapons to be used in the assassination, if he knew Oswald was not really a communist, and if his friend Smith had a map of the sewer system in Dealey Plaza, what is the FBI information Bugliosi uses worth? This information raises Cheramie's story into real importance and discredits the Bureau again.


http://www.ctka.net/2008/bugliosi_5b_review.html


The function of Cheramie is as a keystone joining Ruby, Oswald, Ferrie, Banister, Cubans to a plot involving the two ambush zones your link below shows utilizing the Elm drain opening in its wider days accommodating the shorter barrel variants for the M-16 or AR-15.


The opening diameters I took from the Dealey talk link above, wherein it is stipulated no South grate opening existed, though I've seen it said it once did and had since been "paved over." Dealey implies an insider's arrangement with Dallas city officialdom providing him the history and its documentation. Surely the very last word in cast-iron legitimacy.


"Too narrow a shooting opportunity"? What is skeet or trap or hunting of any kind? What is combat?


The statement by Craig Roberts is of use. (Kill Zone). As is that on the book's pages 89-90 by Hathcock regarding the ludicrous idea of Oswald the expert's expert. Hathcock of course being the best of the best and Oswald having magically no gsr on cheek.


If the sewer shot is a nothing-burger why does it not die; why come back like the protagonist in V for Vendetta or Bartholomew of the 400 Hats.

thanks phil; appreciated, yes if there is nothing to a shot possible from the drain on elm, then why like similar with the crappy zappy, havey not simply died on the vine, what gets me arepeople who have not done any studies of their own,within said sybjects or others, to back up their opinion, which is fine but not research so why pay any attention to them, i no no, similar with the zap,it's impossible rnf of their comment and contribution,a google or such is simply beyond, their expertise or the members are not worthy of their time, nor input, whatever, i do not, and cannot work that way, it's the old, put your action where your mouth is, of stfu.if you begin a thread then contribute do your studies beforehand, it is out there, or next time, forget it, as it takes mine and others time, which they also may choose to be doing something different, i do not mind, posting info, that is what it is for, to pass along,btw here is a photo of sergio..b lost sergio :rofl:when i find him, will post...:gossip: i found sergio...and the photo showing imo that there hd been something at one time, in the same area as north but on the side side, drain..??? who knows, and if they do they are not telling...:curtain: the shot was taken by millie cranor...thanks...b..ps i have lost sergio again, next time i find him, i am going to tie that little beggar down...ta..here is a nix splatter gif, i wonder seeing he said sergio was with hm, if Tosh knows anything about the map, or have i got the wrong sergio...??? b