08-07-2011, 09:57 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-07-2011, 10:19 PM by Greg Burnham.)
Firstly,
Charles and I, having agreed to disagree, have also buried the hatchet. I thank him for his kind words.
Secondly,
I am not aligned with Albert on this subject. We have converging as well as diverging opinions on several aspects of it, including the CIA's "fall back" plan of which Albert wrote. I do not agree that the DRAFT of NSAM 273 nor its timing had anything to do with a fall back position to aid in the cover up. Although it is an intriguing proposition, perhaps worthy of a fictional novel, I reject that thesis on its face for several reasons that I have already stated as well as several that I haven't even addressed. However, I respect Albert and his work.
Thirdly,
Seamus, thanks for the kind words regarding my Dallas COPA 2010 presentation on NSAM 263 & the DRAFT of NSAM 273, where I hoped to--in 30 minutes or less--shine a flood light on the actions of McGeorge Bundy during the final 90 days of JFK's presidency. In my estimation, the indications of his perfidy seem to be overwhelming. Perhaps I am somewhat prejudice against him, but not because of his involvement in Secret Societies.
He initially became suspect when he ordered the cancellation of the pre-dawn airstrikes from our bases in Puerto Cabezas, Nicaragua to the Bay of Pigs in the wee hours of the morning--just hours before Brigade 2506 landed on the beach and was consequently pinned down by Castro's forces. According to the Cuban Study Group's Report, Bundy's action countermanded JFK's last orders from the night before, namely that: all of Castro's remaining air force jets were to be neutralized [destroyed on the ground] or the mission was to be cancelled. Bundy's order to cancel the airstrikes that were strategically planned to complete JFK's order was the IMMEDIATE CAUSE OF FAILURE of the invasion plan. Again, according to the Cuban Study Group, which consisted of DCI, Allen Dulles, General Maxwell Taylor, Admiral Arleigh Burke, and Attorney General, Robert Kennedy: the IMMEDIATE CAUSE OF FAILURE was the cancellation of the pre-dawn airstrikes by McGeorge Bundy.
As for Bundy's involvement in "secret societies" -- I couldn't care less. Perhaps I should, but I don't. That is Robert Morrow's field of study, I suppose.
For the record, I never meant to imply that JFK was predicting that he would be killed by members of any specific "secret society" per se, such as S&B, or whatever. A group that can be named has not accomplished secrecy.
Charles and I, having agreed to disagree, have also buried the hatchet. I thank him for his kind words.
Secondly,
I am not aligned with Albert on this subject. We have converging as well as diverging opinions on several aspects of it, including the CIA's "fall back" plan of which Albert wrote. I do not agree that the DRAFT of NSAM 273 nor its timing had anything to do with a fall back position to aid in the cover up. Although it is an intriguing proposition, perhaps worthy of a fictional novel, I reject that thesis on its face for several reasons that I have already stated as well as several that I haven't even addressed. However, I respect Albert and his work.
Thirdly,
Seamus, thanks for the kind words regarding my Dallas COPA 2010 presentation on NSAM 263 & the DRAFT of NSAM 273, where I hoped to--in 30 minutes or less--shine a flood light on the actions of McGeorge Bundy during the final 90 days of JFK's presidency. In my estimation, the indications of his perfidy seem to be overwhelming. Perhaps I am somewhat prejudice against him, but not because of his involvement in Secret Societies.
He initially became suspect when he ordered the cancellation of the pre-dawn airstrikes from our bases in Puerto Cabezas, Nicaragua to the Bay of Pigs in the wee hours of the morning--just hours before Brigade 2506 landed on the beach and was consequently pinned down by Castro's forces. According to the Cuban Study Group's Report, Bundy's action countermanded JFK's last orders from the night before, namely that: all of Castro's remaining air force jets were to be neutralized [destroyed on the ground] or the mission was to be cancelled. Bundy's order to cancel the airstrikes that were strategically planned to complete JFK's order was the IMMEDIATE CAUSE OF FAILURE of the invasion plan. Again, according to the Cuban Study Group, which consisted of DCI, Allen Dulles, General Maxwell Taylor, Admiral Arleigh Burke, and Attorney General, Robert Kennedy: the IMMEDIATE CAUSE OF FAILURE was the cancellation of the pre-dawn airstrikes by McGeorge Bundy.
As for Bundy's involvement in "secret societies" -- I couldn't care less. Perhaps I should, but I don't. That is Robert Morrow's field of study, I suppose.
For the record, I never meant to imply that JFK was predicting that he would be killed by members of any specific "secret society" per se, such as S&B, or whatever. A group that can be named has not accomplished secrecy.
GO_SECURE
monk
"It is difficult to abolish prejudice in those bereft of ideas. The more hatred is superficial, the more it runs deep."
James Hepburn -- Farewell America (1968)
monk
"It is difficult to abolish prejudice in those bereft of ideas. The more hatred is superficial, the more it runs deep."
James Hepburn -- Farewell America (1968)