23-07-2011, 05:18 PM
(This post was last modified: 23-07-2011, 05:38 PM by Peter Lemkin.)
Two new small developments. One sad - the death toll is now up to 98. This is expected to rise beyond 100 as bodies are recovered from the fjord [at least five are not accounted for] and some in hospital don't make it..... There are also reports now of body parts in the buildings in the city center that may mean more dead there.
The second, neighbors to the 'farm' that this guy had state he NEVER farmed, never plowed, was hardly ever around and never grew ONE vegetable. It seems the 'farm' was strictly cover for getting the fertilizer to make explosives. So, the planning that went into this seems to grow. Again, hard to believe one person could plan and carry this out themselves.
There still is conflict as to whether a second gunman was shooting on the island. Some reports were that there were. Some reports were even that he had been arrested. The arrest now seems to be false, but many of the survivors reported shots coming from two directions simultaneously. His family has been contacted by the police and he has retained a lawyer. The police are saying very little, as is typical of Norwegian police work. I think it will be many days before the Police say much more. However, they have formally charged him with both crimes and many separate criminal acts for each.
He had at least 1.5, maybe two hours to shoot the youth on the island before police arrived. When confronted by the police and told to put down his weapons and surrender, he did immediately and without any problems. Odd.
The second, neighbors to the 'farm' that this guy had state he NEVER farmed, never plowed, was hardly ever around and never grew ONE vegetable. It seems the 'farm' was strictly cover for getting the fertilizer to make explosives. So, the planning that went into this seems to grow. Again, hard to believe one person could plan and carry this out themselves.
There still is conflict as to whether a second gunman was shooting on the island. Some reports were that there were. Some reports were even that he had been arrested. The arrest now seems to be false, but many of the survivors reported shots coming from two directions simultaneously. His family has been contacted by the police and he has retained a lawyer. The police are saying very little, as is typical of Norwegian police work. I think it will be many days before the Police say much more. However, they have formally charged him with both crimes and many separate criminal acts for each.
He had at least 1.5, maybe two hours to shoot the youth on the island before police arrived. When confronted by the police and told to put down his weapons and surrender, he did immediately and without any problems. Odd.
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"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass