04-08-2011, 08:12 AM
James H. Fetzer Wrote:Ed,
What proof do you have that he was killed in this raid? You are committing a brazen example of begging the question by taking for granted that he was still alive to be killed. Try David Ray Griffin, OSAMA BIN LADEN: DEAD OR ALIVE? if you care about the truth.
Ed Jewett Wrote:Getting Access to the Secrets of the Osama Bin Ladin Kill
http://cryptome.org/0005/schmidle/schmidle-access.htm
Dr. Fetzer, you mis-read me. I posted the link because it's perhaps a pathway to follow the propaganda and the myth-making. I cawed in laughter when the news of his death and burial at sea washed across the bows of the media and the sheeple. I come from the world of para-medicine and for years typed (as my source of income) the acute care admissions, histories and final summaries of medical specialists including nephrologists, so I have a better handle on the life expectancy of someone needing dialysis than most. Chronic renal disease is, eventually and necessarily, a fatal disease, and the fact that this man lived in a cave in Afghanistan requiring periodic dialysis without the help of a major state-based entity is laughable on the surface; it requires care, high-end surgical cleanliness, and is frequented with complications, sequelae and co-morbidities and the need for vascular repair or alteration.
Behind that, also available through Cryptome, is the story of "John", the operative seen in White House photos who purportedly was involved in the "kill". As always, there are differing opinions on what really happened and who was involved, but I take a Salandrian approach and step back and look at the long view. Also at Cryptome is a survey of the extent of the publicity given by the current White House administration to the Situation Room.
OBL and the mujahadeen have been tools of the empire for a long time, and it was perfectly alright to kill a man already long dead in order to "bounce" the propaganda around 9/11 and the Global War of Terror.
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