27-02-2009, 01:14 AM
Jan and Charlie, thanks. I expected no response but am a congenital optimist.
Jan, please if you can, tell me more (in confidence) about the Sickert aspect. If not, no worries.
But there is more to the story. At least I think so. For example, in the film "From Hell" the five murders were laid out in the streets of London to fit the Masonic pattern of the five starred pentagram (which can be presented pointing upwards or downwards with completely opposing meanings - bet you didn't know that boys).
But the story I heard was that there were 8 women butchered. And that these eight ritually mutilated corpses writ on earth the celestial pattern of a heavenly star system. With one dead body left on the Isle of Dogs. In other words representing or symbolizing Sirius, the dog star. "Orion" being the star system in question. I actually remember spending time trying to log the locations where the bodies were found against the 1880's map of London (but not so scientifically that I would suggest it was entirely accurate), and yup, eight did fit the mirror image of the Constellation Orion...
Anyway, I think the bottom line here is that the Freemason angle probably has two aspects. One that most Freemasons understand and the other that only a very select few understand. And to over use the word "understand" one might have to track back to the real origin of Freemasonry. Before Egypt which is said to be its real origin. But far darker beginnings, at least for some Freemasons perhaps. Babylonia springs to mind. But I'm no Freemason or anything else and am guessing at best.
In the film "From Hell" the murderer actually starts off as a loyal Freemason doing is loyal duty. But he soon becomes possessed by a dark hellish spirit who believes he "births" the 20th century and perpetual war and conflict.
This part of the film is not in the least part explained and is left for the viewers to make their own conclusions as to its real meaning.
But then I'm one who suffers the possibility that there sometimes are explanations beyond the call of duty...
Jan, please if you can, tell me more (in confidence) about the Sickert aspect. If not, no worries.
But there is more to the story. At least I think so. For example, in the film "From Hell" the five murders were laid out in the streets of London to fit the Masonic pattern of the five starred pentagram (which can be presented pointing upwards or downwards with completely opposing meanings - bet you didn't know that boys).
But the story I heard was that there were 8 women butchered. And that these eight ritually mutilated corpses writ on earth the celestial pattern of a heavenly star system. With one dead body left on the Isle of Dogs. In other words representing or symbolizing Sirius, the dog star. "Orion" being the star system in question. I actually remember spending time trying to log the locations where the bodies were found against the 1880's map of London (but not so scientifically that I would suggest it was entirely accurate), and yup, eight did fit the mirror image of the Constellation Orion...
Anyway, I think the bottom line here is that the Freemason angle probably has two aspects. One that most Freemasons understand and the other that only a very select few understand. And to over use the word "understand" one might have to track back to the real origin of Freemasonry. Before Egypt which is said to be its real origin. But far darker beginnings, at least for some Freemasons perhaps. Babylonia springs to mind. But I'm no Freemason or anything else and am guessing at best.
In the film "From Hell" the murderer actually starts off as a loyal Freemason doing is loyal duty. But he soon becomes possessed by a dark hellish spirit who believes he "births" the 20th century and perpetual war and conflict.
This part of the film is not in the least part explained and is left for the viewers to make their own conclusions as to its real meaning.
But then I'm one who suffers the possibility that there sometimes are explanations beyond the call of duty...
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14