26-08-2011, 11:58 PM
Greg Burnham Wrote:Gary Severson Wrote:Greg Burnham Wrote:By comparison to other countries, the United States is responsible for the vast majority of atmospheric C02 emissions contributed by humans. However, world census statistics strongly suggest that the United States is not an over-populated nation especially when compared to many third tier countries in Africa and Latin America, as well as in comparison to China and India.
Over-population does NOT seem to be the main contributing factor in the minuscule increase of C02 in the atmosphere. Over-consumption, on the other hand, does.
Blaming over populated third world countries for increased global temperatures is like blaming rising oil prices on Luxembourg.
I agree, but of course as those countries rapidly ramp up their consumption we have a problem. Western imperialism is intent on taking over those 3rd world economies to cash in on their potential increased consumption with very little concern for the environment it seems.
I agree...to a point. I believe that it is wholly despicable for us (in western "developed" countries) to prevent those in third world countries from enjoying the benefits that we, in the United States, all enjoy! It is wrong to restrict their expansion into a "better life" based on non-specific, ill defined, perhaps even pseudo science.
Gary, you said: "...as those countries rapidly ramp up their consumption we have a problem."
In my view, it is immoral to require those in "developing" countries (due to the "problem" that their consumption would allegedly create) to continue to live beneath the standards that most Americans would be loath to tolerate.
Parity is an interesting commodity in America: "It is of paramount importance when I am the disaffected, but it is irrelevant when I'm on top."
It isn't despicable when our overconsumption relates to the use of fossil fuels. If you don't think it is detrimental to our atmosphere to have millions of cars on the freeway everyday with one person per vehicle then of course you would say we shouldn't deprive the world of the same opportunity to add CO2 to our common ecosystem. Until alternative fuels are in wide use we have a problem with too many people in too many cars. Gotta go.