01-11-2011, 06:07 AM
Albert Doyle Wrote:Bill Kelly Wrote:As for Doyle's references to US and Israel, all I can say is that their democracies represent the will of the majority of their citizens, even if they take criminal action, though countries and nations cannot be brought to justice for criminal actions, only individuals can.
BK
Revolutionary Program
Forgive me if there's something that strikes me as less than genuine about that statement. Pretending to criticize a rogue government while savoring its kills doesn't strike me as genuine. In America you don't have the option of standing outside and criticizing the government and its actions. Once you do so you are only accentuating the problem. By the way, that statement that our democracy represents the will of the majority is provably false.
The whole idea of our Constitution is that governments CAN be brought to account for their actions. The fact Mr Kelly doesn't seem to understand that represents the source of our disagreement and why he is able to make those lacking arguments so easily. He forgets to mention that no individuals are being brought to account exactly because that government is operating in contempt of what it says it represents. They did with Kennedy too. Both of them as a matter of fact.
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Albert, What is it I don't understand again?
That governments CAN be brought to account for their actions?
I said that governments can not be brought to justice in court, only individuals can.
Those who rant and rave against NATO action in Libya fail to recognize that they acted at the behest of the UN Security Council and the Arab League, as well as the member nations of NATO. You want to hold them accountable for bombing civilians?
Well I don't know of any examples of this although I am sure there are some, though I question those who do this as to where they were when the Gadhafi forces were randomly shelling the citizens of Zawiya and Misratha, killing thousands of people? That's what the UN, AL, USA and NATO were responding to.
The nation of Egypt is not being charged with killing civilians, Mubarak is.
The nation of Syria isn't killing its citizens, Assad is, and he will be held accountable, just as the dictators of Tunisia, Egypt and Libya were.
Please explain to me how a nation or a government can be held accountable and be served with justice so that I better understand.
Thanks,
Bill Kelly
Revolutionary Program