25-11-2011, 05:16 AM
Albert Doyle Wrote:I find Mr Kelly's pro-CIA swagger a little offensive and inappropriate for this site. Frankly I find it like Dick Cheney or Helms was allowed to come in and troll. As if rogue offenses and government abuse of power was justifiable if you just assume a gingoistic gun-ho swagger...
Yes, ban me for my views. Have be thrown out so I can be one of the "disappeared."
And I take your offense at saying my views are pro-CIA because I'm not pro-CIA or even pro-USA - I am against tyrants and dictators whether they are fascists or socialists, kings or commies - I'm a radical revolutionary who has fought against the US government over Vietnam, was teargased and arrested, beaten and threatened by the security state you now wrongly associate me with. I am also against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and have spent much of my life researching and exposing political assassinations, including those conducted by the CIA and Mossad. And ideological idiots of whatever stripe offend me.
And Maggie, Gadhafi certainly was a benevolent dictator to some of his people - and my friends Cynthia McKinney, Wayne Madsen and others view the situation in Libya and the Arab revolt as you do - East vs. West and the West are the Colonial Imperialists who thurst for oil and greed. But they had little interest in Libya and only jumped in the game when NATO got involved. They didn't care much about the thousands of political prisoners that Gadhafi killed or that Gadhafi was in bed with the CIA since Ed Wilson sold him the explosives and guns.
Those who say that the CIA, USA, UK and France were behind the ouster of Gadhafi refuse to recognize that they already had Gadhafi in their pocket, the USA got ZERO zilch oil from Libya though US oil companies had contracts and like the UK, France and Italy, were already working with Gadhafi, not only in the oil fields, but in torturing the renditioned al Qaeda terrorists. So Gadhafi was the CIA's man in Libya, and they had no wish, desire or reason to get rid of him. The change in policy from Pro-Gadhafi to pro-rebels in both Egypt and Libya and Tunisa was a break in the previous CIA-USA policy of using coups and assassinations to place puppets in power - as they had done in Guatemala, Nicaragua, Chile, Cuba, etc.
Well, Gadhafi is gone, and the cut throat Arabs are killing those who keep a grudge - and we'll have to see how the revolts play out in all of these countries, as it took USA seven years to win their revolution and ten years to come up with a constitution that could be agreed on.
If you want a little forum where you can all pat yourself on the back and rant and rave about the NATO child killers - well then you can take Mr. Doyle's threat to have me banished seriously.
William Kelly
Revolutionary Program