03-12-2011, 02:32 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-12-2011, 02:43 PM by Adele Edisen.)
I write this at risk of making some people very angry with me. I truly respect Jim Fetzer, and the others here who have ideas similar to his on the question of Lyndon Johnson and his possible role in the assassination of John Kennedy. I am most grateful to Dr. Fetzer for his extensive radio interview of me on February 16, 2011. That gave me more courage to speak out and write, even a letter to President Obama, now posted on Bill Kelly's website, http://www.jfkcountercoup.blogspot.com, in July of this year.
I have learned much from Jim's books and postings, as I have from so many others on the various forums and at Dallas meetings over the years. I am grateful to everyone for my assassination education, and my gratitude extends as well to those with whom I did not and could not agree, because I did learn something from everyone.
Because of my experiences in April of 1963 when I learned of the impending assassination of President Kennedy from Jose A. Rivera of the National Institutes of Health, I set about to try to understand why and how the assassination happened. I remembered my father telling me of the attempted overthrow of President Roosevelt in 1933-1934 when I was about 11 or 12 years old. I had been reading an article in the Sunday New York Times Magazine section about Benito Mussolini and his takeover of the Italian monarchy in the early 1920s. In my mind's eye I can still see the photograph of Mussolini on a white horse with his blackshirt army standing behind him. King Victor Emmanual had been deposed.
I asked my father if this could ever happen here in America. We had been studying US history and different forms of government in school, so I was very concerned as world news on the radio every day was about events in fascist countries, Spain, Italy, and Germany. He said that it almost had happened some years before. He proceeded to tell me about US Marine General Smedley Butler who literally had saved us from fascism. During my college years, I looked for more information about this event in US history books, but never found any mention of it. Many years later I came across Jules Archer's book, THE PLOT TO SEIZE THE WHITE HOUSE, and I learned more on the Internet and Google. A few years ago, the History Channel made a program on it, and Jules Archer narrates a portion of it. It is on You Tube.com with the title "The Plot to Overthow FDR." I highly recommend it.
I had always been a curious reader and because of discussions with my father, I developed an interest in history, politics, and economics, not unusual because World War II was raging at the time. My father had built his own radios and we listened to short wave broadcasts from London, Moscow, and Berlin, news and propaganda all in English. So it was after I graduated from the College at the University of Chicago I almost decided to obtain a graduate degree in Political Science. But I also had a deep interest in Psychology and Physiology, especially in the brain and the nervous system with a desire to do research, so it was this choice I finally made and became a neurophysiologist. However, I still read books related to political thinking, economics, and history.
Largely due to these interests, I think, my view of the Kennedy assassination (and the assassinations of Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Jr., and Malcom X) is a bit different from many other peoples' views and approaches. From my father I learned to analyze political events in terms of their economic underpinnings, as for example, looking at the rise of fascirm in the three European countries I mentioned earlier, as well as the fascist plot by Wall Street bankers, financiers, and industrialists in 1933-1934. This class of people in the United States were the same types of people who placed dictators into power in Italy, Spain, and Germany. Along with Japan these became the Axis Powers of World II. And we also have to remember that through international cartels and other connections, Wall Street of America helped Hitler, Mussolini, and Franco rise to power. The definition of Fascism is the Corporate State.
It made perfectly good sense to me to think of the assassination of John Kennedy as a political-economic crime. For that reason, I would not consider someone like Lyndon Johnson, Kennedy's Vice President, as his murderer. He was an important part of his administration, helpful in getting civil rights and other types of legislation based on the Democratc Party platform through Congress, and in winning votes in the Southern Dixiecrat States. Lyndon Johnson tried to keep Kennedy from being driven through Dallas because he knew of the right-wing crazies there, having been spat upon, booed, and hit in the lobby of the Hotel Adolphus when campaigning in Dallas in 1960 with his wife, Ladybird.
When I was on Rich DellaRosa's forum, I posted a study of Lyndon Johnson's schedule on Thursday, November 21, 1963. He had been at his ranch since November 10, working on preparing for the Texas trip and especially for the final date's fund-raiser in Austin on the evening of November 22. He was calling and writing to as many people he could to get them to the Austin dinner. On Thursday morning, he and Ladybird met the President's plane at the San Antonio International Airport, and traveled with him and his entourage on to the medical facilities at Brooke Army Medical Center, BAMC, and then after lunch both Air Force I and II took off for Houston for a dinner and speeches. According to their planned schedule. both groups would leave Houston at 10:00 pm to fly to Carswell Air Force Base, set to arrive at 10:45 pm, and then drive the five or so miles to Fort Worth and the Hotel Texas in 20 minutes to arrive at the hotel at 11:05 pm. That was the plan, but there must have been a slight delay because the two planes landed at Carswell a few mionutes after !!:00 pm instead of the scheduled 10:45 pm.
It would have been impossible for Lyndon Johnson to have been anywhere else but on Air Force II at 10:30 pm on Thursday, November 21, 1963.
My post on JFKresearch.com is now gone, but the information can be found on Google, if anyone is interested.
Adele Edisen
I have learned much from Jim's books and postings, as I have from so many others on the various forums and at Dallas meetings over the years. I am grateful to everyone for my assassination education, and my gratitude extends as well to those with whom I did not and could not agree, because I did learn something from everyone.
Because of my experiences in April of 1963 when I learned of the impending assassination of President Kennedy from Jose A. Rivera of the National Institutes of Health, I set about to try to understand why and how the assassination happened. I remembered my father telling me of the attempted overthrow of President Roosevelt in 1933-1934 when I was about 11 or 12 years old. I had been reading an article in the Sunday New York Times Magazine section about Benito Mussolini and his takeover of the Italian monarchy in the early 1920s. In my mind's eye I can still see the photograph of Mussolini on a white horse with his blackshirt army standing behind him. King Victor Emmanual had been deposed.
I asked my father if this could ever happen here in America. We had been studying US history and different forms of government in school, so I was very concerned as world news on the radio every day was about events in fascist countries, Spain, Italy, and Germany. He said that it almost had happened some years before. He proceeded to tell me about US Marine General Smedley Butler who literally had saved us from fascism. During my college years, I looked for more information about this event in US history books, but never found any mention of it. Many years later I came across Jules Archer's book, THE PLOT TO SEIZE THE WHITE HOUSE, and I learned more on the Internet and Google. A few years ago, the History Channel made a program on it, and Jules Archer narrates a portion of it. It is on You Tube.com with the title "The Plot to Overthow FDR." I highly recommend it.
I had always been a curious reader and because of discussions with my father, I developed an interest in history, politics, and economics, not unusual because World War II was raging at the time. My father had built his own radios and we listened to short wave broadcasts from London, Moscow, and Berlin, news and propaganda all in English. So it was after I graduated from the College at the University of Chicago I almost decided to obtain a graduate degree in Political Science. But I also had a deep interest in Psychology and Physiology, especially in the brain and the nervous system with a desire to do research, so it was this choice I finally made and became a neurophysiologist. However, I still read books related to political thinking, economics, and history.
Largely due to these interests, I think, my view of the Kennedy assassination (and the assassinations of Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Jr., and Malcom X) is a bit different from many other peoples' views and approaches. From my father I learned to analyze political events in terms of their economic underpinnings, as for example, looking at the rise of fascirm in the three European countries I mentioned earlier, as well as the fascist plot by Wall Street bankers, financiers, and industrialists in 1933-1934. This class of people in the United States were the same types of people who placed dictators into power in Italy, Spain, and Germany. Along with Japan these became the Axis Powers of World II. And we also have to remember that through international cartels and other connections, Wall Street of America helped Hitler, Mussolini, and Franco rise to power. The definition of Fascism is the Corporate State.
It made perfectly good sense to me to think of the assassination of John Kennedy as a political-economic crime. For that reason, I would not consider someone like Lyndon Johnson, Kennedy's Vice President, as his murderer. He was an important part of his administration, helpful in getting civil rights and other types of legislation based on the Democratc Party platform through Congress, and in winning votes in the Southern Dixiecrat States. Lyndon Johnson tried to keep Kennedy from being driven through Dallas because he knew of the right-wing crazies there, having been spat upon, booed, and hit in the lobby of the Hotel Adolphus when campaigning in Dallas in 1960 with his wife, Ladybird.
When I was on Rich DellaRosa's forum, I posted a study of Lyndon Johnson's schedule on Thursday, November 21, 1963. He had been at his ranch since November 10, working on preparing for the Texas trip and especially for the final date's fund-raiser in Austin on the evening of November 22. He was calling and writing to as many people he could to get them to the Austin dinner. On Thursday morning, he and Ladybird met the President's plane at the San Antonio International Airport, and traveled with him and his entourage on to the medical facilities at Brooke Army Medical Center, BAMC, and then after lunch both Air Force I and II took off for Houston for a dinner and speeches. According to their planned schedule. both groups would leave Houston at 10:00 pm to fly to Carswell Air Force Base, set to arrive at 10:45 pm, and then drive the five or so miles to Fort Worth and the Hotel Texas in 20 minutes to arrive at the hotel at 11:05 pm. That was the plan, but there must have been a slight delay because the two planes landed at Carswell a few mionutes after !!:00 pm instead of the scheduled 10:45 pm.
It would have been impossible for Lyndon Johnson to have been anywhere else but on Air Force II at 10:30 pm on Thursday, November 21, 1963.
My post on JFKresearch.com is now gone, but the information can be found on Google, if anyone is interested.
Adele Edisen