04-12-2011, 04:40 PM
The point is that phrases like "the national security state" or "the corporate/fasist/police state" describe arrangements or policies that may apply to groups or political entities collectively but do not designate any actual specific persons who could have taken the actual steps that had to be taken to kill JFK, such as forcing himself on the ticket, schmoozing with the Secret Service, collaborating with J. Edgar, sending his chief administrative assistant, Cliff Carter, down to Dallas to make sure the arrangements for the assassination were in place, deploying Malcolm "Mac" Wallace to the plaza to fire shots--all of which I have concluded were done by Lyndon Baines Johnson in furtherance of the plot to murder John Fitzgerald Kennedy. Many here seem to want to adopt a structural analysis of the crime, but abstractions do not actually commit them. People do. That's all. I was not putting words in anyone's mouth--but you, like your mentor, seem disposed to use the word "lie", where there is no foundation, warrant, or justification for doing so. I came here expecting a higher level of intellectual engagement than at The Education Forum. That, I am learning, however, was too much to ask. The shallow treatment of the LBJ thesis displayed here reveals that that expectation was far too much to ask. I really think we need to ask, "Why was 'The Deep Politics' forum created?" One of the reasons I have been told is to avoid the petty badgering and ad hominem attacks that occur there. But take a look at recent posts here. Charles uses sarcasm and ridicule more than logic and evidence. Seamus Coogan is a poster boy for bad behavior. Why is this being allowed? This is very, very sad.
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:James H. Fetzer Wrote:That's right, Jan. He wasn't killed by any actual persons. He was killed by an abstraction, "The National Security State"! How dumb is that?
Fine, Jim.
You carry on putting words into other people's mouths, whilst peddling the LBJ Mastermind Lie.
