19-12-2011, 05:25 PM
Hello Charles,
Thank you for the response - I was hoping for it.
This is where the case gets interesting to me. My understanding of these events is ever-fluid, and I'm always willing to allow my understanding to re-shift. In fact, I welcome that.
First, the whole "Rockefeller" thing. If I'm not mistaken, the Rockefeller Empire took over majority interest in the Federal Reserve in the early 30s. That's significant. The "Rockefellers" exist in relationship to other global interests, certainly. The "Rothchilds" come to mind. This "elite" mechanism is tied to the "top dogs" of the monetary system, but that's a topic for another day.
I've heard some researchers claim the assassination was never ordered, it just happened organically. I can't get my mind around that. Doesn't there have to be a conversation (or many), and the topic discussed? Doesn't the order have to be given? Where did this conversation take place? What's the apex of power that could order such event and know there would never be any repercussions? Who could've been in the room? I can easily understand your premise of a guiding global hand. But, this conversation took place somewhere on earth, in time.
Your explanation of the "Sponsors" and the "Facilitators" has helped my understanding of this murder. I do not believe Allen Dulles was even close to being a sponsor. The same for Richard Helms, James Angleton, Ed Lansdale, Clint Murchison, Lyndon Johnson or any of the other cast of characters we've grown to know over the years. Nor do I think they lost any sleep when the directive came down.
I've always felt part of President Kennedy's murder was for the pure exercise of power. It was a flexing of muscle for the sake of the display of brute force. I think we are on the same page there:
Back to Lyndon Johnson. Why was JFK assassinated in Dallas? Why was Johnson being so rigorously perused legally at the time of murder? More doubts. More of the story. More deflection from the truth. LBJ had a role to play in this drama, whether he wanted it or not. My guess: He enjoyed the part he had to play.
How far does this storyline go into the Kennedy presidency, Charles? The Bay of Pigs - part of the intended drama? The Cuban Missile Crisis - part of the intended drama? The closest election in history - part of the intended drama? The death of baby Patrick Kennedy - part of the intended drama? And, certainly the trip to Dallas, intended.
I'm just curious how deep the story goes.
Do you believe that no matter who was to be elected in '60 was marked for assassination? Do you believe John Kennedy was selected for this purpose? Do you believe the assassination had nothing to do with his policy as president? Do you believe JFK was cast in the part of the idealistic, young, progressive president with the full intent to kill him before the world?
Thanks again for the conversation, Charles. Always a pleasure.
-Stan
Thank you for the response - I was hoping for it.
This is where the case gets interesting to me. My understanding of these events is ever-fluid, and I'm always willing to allow my understanding to re-shift. In fact, I welcome that.
First, the whole "Rockefeller" thing. If I'm not mistaken, the Rockefeller Empire took over majority interest in the Federal Reserve in the early 30s. That's significant. The "Rockefellers" exist in relationship to other global interests, certainly. The "Rothchilds" come to mind. This "elite" mechanism is tied to the "top dogs" of the monetary system, but that's a topic for another day.
I've heard some researchers claim the assassination was never ordered, it just happened organically. I can't get my mind around that. Doesn't there have to be a conversation (or many), and the topic discussed? Doesn't the order have to be given? Where did this conversation take place? What's the apex of power that could order such event and know there would never be any repercussions? Who could've been in the room? I can easily understand your premise of a guiding global hand. But, this conversation took place somewhere on earth, in time.
Your explanation of the "Sponsors" and the "Facilitators" has helped my understanding of this murder. I do not believe Allen Dulles was even close to being a sponsor. The same for Richard Helms, James Angleton, Ed Lansdale, Clint Murchison, Lyndon Johnson or any of the other cast of characters we've grown to know over the years. Nor do I think they lost any sleep when the directive came down.
I've always felt part of President Kennedy's murder was for the pure exercise of power. It was a flexing of muscle for the sake of the display of brute force. I think we are on the same page there:
Quote:I'd like you to consider this: Resolved that even if JFK had not been perceived as a serious threat to the elite, the time had come to execute an American president and remove a Soviet premier so as to remind generations of successors around the globe that they are simply pieces on a board -- pieces with no real power to manage or change the game.
Back to Lyndon Johnson. Why was JFK assassinated in Dallas? Why was Johnson being so rigorously perused legally at the time of murder? More doubts. More of the story. More deflection from the truth. LBJ had a role to play in this drama, whether he wanted it or not. My guess: He enjoyed the part he had to play.
How far does this storyline go into the Kennedy presidency, Charles? The Bay of Pigs - part of the intended drama? The Cuban Missile Crisis - part of the intended drama? The closest election in history - part of the intended drama? The death of baby Patrick Kennedy - part of the intended drama? And, certainly the trip to Dallas, intended.
I'm just curious how deep the story goes.
Do you believe that no matter who was to be elected in '60 was marked for assassination? Do you believe John Kennedy was selected for this purpose? Do you believe the assassination had nothing to do with his policy as president? Do you believe JFK was cast in the part of the idealistic, young, progressive president with the full intent to kill him before the world?
Thanks again for the conversation, Charles. Always a pleasure.
-Stan