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TSBD Doorway man - Oswald or Lovelady?
Ralph Cinque Wrote:Here is my response to Pein-head over on the Education Forum concerning Buell's testimony in the mock trial. But just so you know, photographic evidence does count as physical evidence, when it's definitive, and what I discovered about the shirt is definitive.

It is definitive according to YOU. It is not definitive to anyone else besides Jim. Your having proclaimed it to be definitive does not make it so. Your lack of expert status makes your claim equal to that of any other non-expert's claim. Where you have a multitude of JFK assassination experts challenging your claim, where they themselves are (like you) not photographic experts, but are clearly on the RIGHT SIDE of the big picture (not Warren Commission apologist/Lone Nut advocates), their challenges should be greeted with an open mind. Their objections should be charitably interpreted due to their having proved themselves in the past. Von Pein (in the ass) is not a good example.

Quote:It's true that in that television mock trial, Buell Frazier identified the Doorway Man as Lovelady, but let's analyze it.

Frazier was standing BEHIND Doorway Man. He was not fooled by any photographic manipulation of Altgens 6 even if it occurred. He testified that he witnessed Lovelady standing in front of him. Therefore, he was not subjected to making an ID based solely on the photograph.

Quote:Jim Fetzer and I have been saying all along that they did things to convert Oswald into Lovelady.

That is speculation. Unless an expert demonstrates this, I am unconvinced.

Quote:They added plaid to his shirt; they doctored his hairline; and they either altered his facial features OR they directly moved the entire face of Lovelady onto Oswald. And those are the reasons why Buell Frazier thought the Doorway Man was Lovelady.

Occam's Razor again: Or Frazier was simply correct and it was LOVELADY, wearing an un-doctored shirt, with his own face, and hairline intact--all of which comport with the eyewitness testimony!

Or alternately, even if there was photographic manipulation, that is not what Frazier relied upon to make the ID. He was THERE! He knew the man standing in front of him.

Quote:But, recall that when asked about the idea that Lovelady and Oswald looked alike, Buell rejected it. He said that Lovelady was "short and stocky" whereas Oswald had a "thin frame." That was the first thing that came to his mind. It's also what I have been saying all along. But unfortunately, Buell did not apply that data to his analysis of who was in the picture. He just looked at the face and said it was Lovelady. Why?

I can no more determine if the figure in the doorway is thin or stocky than I can determine if Zapruder was on the pedestal. Therefore, judging from the photographic record, I cannot say with certainty that Zapruder was even there. So, too--I cannot say for certain who is in the doorway...and neither can you! Maybe Oswald, maybe Lovelady? Perhaps. But, you have gone WAY TOO FAR in claiming ABSOLUTELY that it is Oswald.

Quote:It's because we don't tend to contemplate the magnitude of the fraud that was committed here. His mind just didn't go there. Few people's minds do. It took a Jim Fetzer to realize that they actually moved the face over. And before any of you make any insulting remarks about him, I know very well that he has got enemies here. Well, if you don't like him, you can kiss my ass! He is 10x the man you are, you're not fit to wipe his boots.

Excuse me? Here's a photo taken less than a year ago when my friend, Jim Fetzer, stayed with me and my wife in our San Diego condo. We go back...way back. You can go now.

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Messages In This Thread
TSBD Doorway man - Oswald or Lovelady? - by Greg Burnham - 02-02-2012, 11:20 PM
TSBD Doorway man - Oswald or Lovelady? - by Mark Stapleton - 28-11-2012, 11:39 AM
TSBD Doorway man - Oswald or Lovelady? - by Mark Stapleton - 29-11-2012, 09:16 AM
TSBD Doorway man - Oswald or Lovelady? - by Mark Stapleton - 30-11-2012, 09:09 AM
TSBD Doorway man - Oswald or Lovelady? - by Mark Stapleton - 01-12-2012, 06:12 AM
TSBD Doorway man - Oswald or Lovelady? - by Mark Stapleton - 02-12-2012, 12:12 PM
TSBD Doorway man - Oswald or Lovelady? - by Mark Stapleton - 05-12-2012, 05:39 AM
TSBD Doorway man - Oswald or Lovelady? - by Mark Stapleton - 06-12-2012, 07:34 AM
TSBD Doorway man - Oswald or Lovelady? - by Mark Stapleton - 09-12-2012, 11:49 AM

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