29-03-2009, 03:59 PM
Expanding on the 'Deserting Rats -v- was it all planned' thing:
I have followed Bilderberger/TLC/RIIA/CFR et al influence and apparant agenda(s) for years now. There is no doubt that strenuous efforts have and are being made to drive and maintain an Elites consensus on the over-arching issues of global control. The World Bank, IMF and BIS are their Globalised banking tools, subscribed to and steered by a hierarchy of Central Banks dominated by private Elite interests. The Military, Police and State SS's are their enforcement tools. I am not convinced their agenda is altogether 'going as planned' though. The shenanigans at Davos this year together with what appears to be increasingly organised and determined rejection of IFM/WB terms of trade and assistance by 'Third World' and 'Bolivarian Revolution' countries are a taster of the dissent and fragmentation to come perhaps. Effective integration of China, Russia and Iran (to name only the most powerful) appear distant if not impossible. Excluding their Elites whilst dealing comprehensively with the threats they would represent as a result is problematical to put it mildly.
Granted preparations to deal with domestic civil unrest and effective dissent are alarmingly well advanced in the US, Europe and the UK - and elsewhere too I guess (Israeli control of the West Bank being a 'state-of-the-art test-bed) but the possibility of the current 'Washington Consensus' consolidating and holding through what we are faced with seems to me remote - which implies that the risks of dramatic fragmentation, war and severe domestic repressions are correspondingly high. In that respect I am also uncertain that the current dominance of US military capabilities, with 1000 or so overseas installations, its mind-blowing surveillance and remote power projection capabilities and a budget greater than the rest of the world combined are altogether the asset assumed by the Anglo/US Elites grouping either. Short of a major worldwide conflagration with totally unpredictable and catastrophic consequences, the dispersed manpower elements could easily metamorphose into a huge and potentially crippling liability.
On the domestic surveillance/security State front, I agree that things are well advanced and becoming truly Orwellian. On a journey from Derby to Ormskirk yesterday I tried to count the number-plate recognition cameras I passed and lost count at 48 (in around 80 miles). They began to appear over a decade ago and now log every number-plate read, with date, time and location. The resulting possibilities are endless: For whatever trivial reason, your name flashes up on some obscure criteria-driven system at GCHQ say. The NPR system is then told to track your vehicle; henceforth the state knows its movements better than you do. Or - A number plate is read in Derby then the same number pops up 200 miles away less than 200 miles/x MPH later - bingo! one is false and the cops are onto both in a flash. The face recognition and RFID stuff available and in preparation for roll-out is the really scary bit though. The surveillance/tracking capabilities provided to the SS's if and when that is integrated into ID cards with active Tx/receivers at every conceivable location will complete an ongoing Orwellian transformation. Welcome to 1984 just 2-3 decades late eh?
I have followed Bilderberger/TLC/RIIA/CFR et al influence and apparant agenda(s) for years now. There is no doubt that strenuous efforts have and are being made to drive and maintain an Elites consensus on the over-arching issues of global control. The World Bank, IMF and BIS are their Globalised banking tools, subscribed to and steered by a hierarchy of Central Banks dominated by private Elite interests. The Military, Police and State SS's are their enforcement tools. I am not convinced their agenda is altogether 'going as planned' though. The shenanigans at Davos this year together with what appears to be increasingly organised and determined rejection of IFM/WB terms of trade and assistance by 'Third World' and 'Bolivarian Revolution' countries are a taster of the dissent and fragmentation to come perhaps. Effective integration of China, Russia and Iran (to name only the most powerful) appear distant if not impossible. Excluding their Elites whilst dealing comprehensively with the threats they would represent as a result is problematical to put it mildly.
Granted preparations to deal with domestic civil unrest and effective dissent are alarmingly well advanced in the US, Europe and the UK - and elsewhere too I guess (Israeli control of the West Bank being a 'state-of-the-art test-bed) but the possibility of the current 'Washington Consensus' consolidating and holding through what we are faced with seems to me remote - which implies that the risks of dramatic fragmentation, war and severe domestic repressions are correspondingly high. In that respect I am also uncertain that the current dominance of US military capabilities, with 1000 or so overseas installations, its mind-blowing surveillance and remote power projection capabilities and a budget greater than the rest of the world combined are altogether the asset assumed by the Anglo/US Elites grouping either. Short of a major worldwide conflagration with totally unpredictable and catastrophic consequences, the dispersed manpower elements could easily metamorphose into a huge and potentially crippling liability.
On the domestic surveillance/security State front, I agree that things are well advanced and becoming truly Orwellian. On a journey from Derby to Ormskirk yesterday I tried to count the number-plate recognition cameras I passed and lost count at 48 (in around 80 miles). They began to appear over a decade ago and now log every number-plate read, with date, time and location. The resulting possibilities are endless: For whatever trivial reason, your name flashes up on some obscure criteria-driven system at GCHQ say. The NPR system is then told to track your vehicle; henceforth the state knows its movements better than you do. Or - A number plate is read in Derby then the same number pops up 200 miles away less than 200 miles/x MPH later - bingo! one is false and the cops are onto both in a flash. The face recognition and RFID stuff available and in preparation for roll-out is the really scary bit though. The surveillance/tracking capabilities provided to the SS's if and when that is integrated into ID cards with active Tx/receivers at every conceivable location will complete an ongoing Orwellian transformation. Welcome to 1984 just 2-3 decades late eh?
Peter Presland
".....there is something far worse than Nazism, and that is the hubris of the Anglo-American fraternities, whose routine is to incite indigenous monsters to war, and steer the pandemonium to further their imperial aims"
Guido Preparata. Preface to 'Conjuring Hitler'[size=12][size=12]
"Never believe anything until it has been officially denied"
Claud Cockburn
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".....there is something far worse than Nazism, and that is the hubris of the Anglo-American fraternities, whose routine is to incite indigenous monsters to war, and steer the pandemonium to further their imperial aims"
Guido Preparata. Preface to 'Conjuring Hitler'[size=12][size=12]
"Never believe anything until it has been officially denied"
Claud Cockburn
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