09-08-2012, 07:15 PM
Adele Edisen Wrote:I am going to say something bold and rash. You may accept it or not. I think this country is in the midst of a fascist takeover.
There, I said it! Maybe I'm not the only one to say and think the same.
Adele
No, Adele, I don't think it is rash...only bold of you to say it...and it needs to be said more and by more...and something done about it. ALL the things we write about on this Forum and refer to on the internet, when taken as a whole, can only be interpreted just as you put it. I have often on this Forum, and before on the EF [before I was kicked off for speaking truth to power there - I guess] used the metaphor of America 'crossing the line' [i.e. when it becomes fascist] and have often stated that I think that it already has some years back, and is only getting worse. One can debate the 'when'; but I think any thinking and aware person can't debate the what and where it logically leads if not stopped. I'm not offended if someone thinks we have not yet crossed the 'line', as long as they see that point coming nearer. What we need is to stop this movement in its tracks, expose it and totally reverse it....wherever along its trajectory it is......all current roads lead to a corporate-run, military-dominated, police state neo-fascist entity where once stood our Country, imperfect as it was. It has had a long and sad history. You pointed out some major points going back to the turn of the last century and up through WW2. Those after WW2 are more clear to most. There have been seminal moments of increased 'grip' over the polity and Nation with certain events such as the major assassinations, covert operations, wars [overt and covert], rise of the Oligarchy and Corporations running the branches of Government, rise of propaganda and diminution of laws, legal rights, due process, adherence to the Constitution and International Treaty obligations. I could go on. You are, IMHO, 100% correct....sadly for all of us, in and out of the USA. The pace to me seems fevered now since 9-11 and the unPatriot Act et al. Time to roll up our sleeves, expose it for what it is and get all good persons to join us in reversing it. Its been done before and if not done this time [and soon], I worry for what will be 'left' and if too far advanced if recovery will still be possible. Obviously, we are far advanced and the sooner the better for reversing it. It will not be easy and it will take more than we few on this Forum. I hope we few, however, have signaled the clarion call and pointed out the signposts, with references. It will take a mass movement to win the Country back. There have, in the past, been partial take-backs; only to have the forces of regression rise up again. Seems to me this is the worst situation the Country has ever been in and time for the roll back to begin apace! Before it is too late!
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass