30-11-2012, 08:10 AM
(This post was last modified: 30-11-2012, 01:05 PM by Seamus Coogan.)
Don, I think your being a bit selective here. I appreciate we are on a better level than we once were. Nonetheless, my own attack on JF was a pretty brutal ad hom. Indeed, they have been pretty scathing of Cinque (as you know lol). Is CD being something of a Captain Ahab in pursuing the great White Fetzer Dick? Maybe, but while I show some trepidation to CD's antics towards other individuals. I fully believe individuals like Cinque and Fetzer deserve it, thus in many ways I to am lashing myself to the deck on the DPF with him.
I also do not think CD is quite as bad as those he dumps on. I think CD is correct, JF provides agency for disinformation. I don't think he is a witting dupe-nonetheless, he is an agent of disinformation. Or is he unwitting Don? While I don't think he has the capacity for the accusations myself, nor did GB or CD say it was 'Fetzer' I am still open to the idea or at least one scenario, which may well be more revealing.
If someone could get to the bottom of who 'Ron' was on the bridge, we may have an idea of how duplicitous Fetzer potentially is or not. What annoys me a little is that simply because I have suggested having a look into that little quagmire, CD when not bellowing like a silver back. As we all know is a very, very capable researcher and excellent word-smith. Yet he hasn't bothered to take that rather simple route, wanna know why Don? It's simply because I suggested it, indeed I was the first person anywhere to my knowledge that has ever accused JF of impersonating someone else. That's what puzzles me about all this, rather than examining syntax, language and essentially relying on guess work of some 'Fetzer clone'. Why not explore the Ron avenue? I know for a fact Fetzer flat out lied to me about being in contact with nut ball Nico Haupt. He was also crazed enough to flat out lie on the EF he could do a Lancer or COPA gig if he so wanted. Now that's a bald faced lie, he was banned from those gigs a long time ago!
I cannot help but shake the feeling that Fetzer (at the very least) had something to do with the ideas behind the 'Ron' scene (even if it was not him). If I am wrong about it, I am wrong, I don't stake my rep on it. I do think beneath all of the verbosity CD, is indeed a decent bloke. He just does wonderful impersonations of an asshole sometimes. Sometimes I like him being one, sometimes I don't. It's just the way it is, if he wants to look a potential gift horse in his mouth with regards to Ron, ultimately that is his business. Thus Don I also put the challenge to you. Try your best to find out what JF had to do with that show. Who was Ron? Or how much of a role did Fetzer really have with that show? For Christ sakes not even Jim Di's looked at it enough for my satisfaction, yes I am also a little annoyed about that as well. He's in LA as well and he knows a lot of people in the industry.
So I reckon both you and CD need to cut a lot of the bullshit between you and find answers to some rather black and white questions. I really hope more sensible heads like Dave Josephs and Phil Dragoo, Keith Millea, LR, Monk or Jan could do some real digging into the Ventura show. Len has some information, but he was hardly told the truth. The lies and distortions presented in that program means they could have told him bloody anything. So Len (as much as I dig the dude), is not necessarily a good place to start. Shows have cameras, sound, lights, make up, transport, at least eight or so people would have been involved that embarrassing night on the bridge. Why has Fetzer never sought fit to find out who the person was who looked like him on the bridge? Either way one looks at it Fetzer's credibility takes a massive hit with Ron, and he doesn't even need to be him...yet, I would give my left arm to find out who that fraud was.
I also do not think CD is quite as bad as those he dumps on. I think CD is correct, JF provides agency for disinformation. I don't think he is a witting dupe-nonetheless, he is an agent of disinformation. Or is he unwitting Don? While I don't think he has the capacity for the accusations myself, nor did GB or CD say it was 'Fetzer' I am still open to the idea or at least one scenario, which may well be more revealing.
If someone could get to the bottom of who 'Ron' was on the bridge, we may have an idea of how duplicitous Fetzer potentially is or not. What annoys me a little is that simply because I have suggested having a look into that little quagmire, CD when not bellowing like a silver back. As we all know is a very, very capable researcher and excellent word-smith. Yet he hasn't bothered to take that rather simple route, wanna know why Don? It's simply because I suggested it, indeed I was the first person anywhere to my knowledge that has ever accused JF of impersonating someone else. That's what puzzles me about all this, rather than examining syntax, language and essentially relying on guess work of some 'Fetzer clone'. Why not explore the Ron avenue? I know for a fact Fetzer flat out lied to me about being in contact with nut ball Nico Haupt. He was also crazed enough to flat out lie on the EF he could do a Lancer or COPA gig if he so wanted. Now that's a bald faced lie, he was banned from those gigs a long time ago!
I cannot help but shake the feeling that Fetzer (at the very least) had something to do with the ideas behind the 'Ron' scene (even if it was not him). If I am wrong about it, I am wrong, I don't stake my rep on it. I do think beneath all of the verbosity CD, is indeed a decent bloke. He just does wonderful impersonations of an asshole sometimes. Sometimes I like him being one, sometimes I don't. It's just the way it is, if he wants to look a potential gift horse in his mouth with regards to Ron, ultimately that is his business. Thus Don I also put the challenge to you. Try your best to find out what JF had to do with that show. Who was Ron? Or how much of a role did Fetzer really have with that show? For Christ sakes not even Jim Di's looked at it enough for my satisfaction, yes I am also a little annoyed about that as well. He's in LA as well and he knows a lot of people in the industry.
So I reckon both you and CD need to cut a lot of the bullshit between you and find answers to some rather black and white questions. I really hope more sensible heads like Dave Josephs and Phil Dragoo, Keith Millea, LR, Monk or Jan could do some real digging into the Ventura show. Len has some information, but he was hardly told the truth. The lies and distortions presented in that program means they could have told him bloody anything. So Len (as much as I dig the dude), is not necessarily a good place to start. Shows have cameras, sound, lights, make up, transport, at least eight or so people would have been involved that embarrassing night on the bridge. Why has Fetzer never sought fit to find out who the person was who looked like him on the bridge? Either way one looks at it Fetzer's credibility takes a massive hit with Ron, and he doesn't even need to be him...yet, I would give my left arm to find out who that fraud was.
"In the Kennedy assassination we must be careful of running off into the ether of our own imaginations." Carl Ogelsby circa 1992