14-12-2012, 09:14 PM
David Josephs Wrote:Quote: As an intel op, the Doppelganger Gambit within the JFK conspiracy was meant to support construction of an LN-supporting LHO legend AND ultimately to be discovered so as to create cognitive dissonance and dissension among seasoned investigators (professionals and amateurs).
Hang on a minute... :-)
I was under the impression that at the time of the planning and implementation this Gambit was to connect someone with Cuba and Communist Russia in a conspiracy to kill JFK...
and create cognitive dissonance yada yada yada...
You were under a very narrow impression.
As for your dismissal ("yada yada yada") of the broader, deeper objectives of the Doppelganger Gambit, I strongly suggest that you broaden and deepen your perspectives on deep politics.
David Josephs Wrote:Was "Lone Nut" part of this Gambit as a fall back..?
or Was "LN" the unanticipated response from a frightened president... not wanting to be the LAST POTUS ?
or both?
Neither.
David Josephs Wrote:Is there any question as to PDS's correctness in stating that Phase 1 was implicate Cuba/Russia, Phase II was to insolate as well as designate a patsy with accompanying evidence as needed.
There is some question about your understanding of Peter Dale Scott's "Phases" cover-up scenario, so I cannot answer this question. . Look at Phase II again
David Josephs Wrote:From what I see, all activities leading to 11/22 related to LHO were Phase 1.
Not only does this phase allow for the setting of the stage, but multiple Oswalds add greatly to the confusion as to where Oswald was at any given time so as to allow the cover-up to pick and choose who needed to be MOST RIGHT about where and when Oswald was at any given time...
Again, don't be so eager to identify a single objective for actions that by definition have at least two goals
And I disagree with you strongly regarding your "pick and choose" scenario.
David Josephs Wrote:So now that we've theorized that all pre 11/22 Oswald doubling had the main purpose of implicating Oswald in a conspiracy, with the secondary benefit of confusing the issue after the fact.
And before.
David Josephs Wrote:When does he become THE patsy... and are Tampa and Chicago parts of the same plot?...
From Day One.
Chicago and Tampa, I submit, were ruses designed to provide security for the Dallas hit. See my threads:
The Chicago Plot: A Hypothesis at
https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/sho...Hypothesis
and
The Chicago Plot: Edwin Black's Ground-Breaking Investigation at
https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/sho...estigation
David Josephs Wrote:so back to our topic.... on 11/22 what would be the purpose of a double being at the TSBD or in DP or even in the vicinity if the object was to place Oswald in the 6th floor window....
(Jiffy Mart as well as the Yates passenger on 11/20) http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archiv...lPageId=67
why not just put a double in the window with a rifle as opposed to street level as a witness...
Good questions. If there were at least one LHO double in DP during the shooting, there is no telling how he/they may have screwed up. And by the way, I am not arguing that Doorway Man is an Oswald doppelganger. As it happens, I remain agnostic as to Doorway Man's identity -- although I lean toward BNL, and I have ZERO doubt that the "Cinque"/Fetzer junk science is just that.
I continue to point out that the purposes of the doppelgangers in the JFK hit were many and varied -- and the doubles are not, by the way, restricted to humans:
TWO autopsies; TWO brain exams; TWO rifles; TWO Maurice Bishops; etc.
David Josephs Wrote:Now I've read about the games these boys (CIA/FBI) play among themselves... Could this be one CIA rogue messin with another to see how good they are at covering the tracks?
You can't be serious.
David Josephs Wrote:Oswald doubles have been pushing for conspiracy and Cuba/Russia and evidence against Oswald for premeditation.
For starters.
David Josephs Wrote:If you can help by offering your ideas on how this fits with Peter Scott's Phased story approach... it would help.
Thanks
DJ
I don't mean to be brusque, David. On the contrary, I want to do everything I can to assist and be assisted by researchers exhibiting insight, a strong foundation in the subject at hand, and the courage to share their thoughts with like-minded observers. FWIW, I number you among this group.
My methods are not universally appreciated. I get it. But please know that my responses above are offered with respect and in the spirit of cooperation.
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If an individual, through either his own volition or events over which he had no control, found himself taking up residence in a country undefined by flags or physical borders, he could be assured of one immediate and abiding consequence: He was on his own, and solitude and loneliness would probably be his companions unto the grave.
-- James Lee Burke, Rain Gods
You can't blame the innocent, they are always guiltless. All you can do is control them or eliminate them. Innocence is a kind of insanity.
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