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The Murder of Manuel Buedia and DEA Agent Ki Ki Camarena
#7
Tosh's career began at age 15 or 16 in the Fourth Army.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index....hl=plumlee
This question was asked over a year ago. Perhaps someone has uncovered new information on a few of these operatives recently:
Does anyone know anything about this "Special" unit that came from Fort Bliss, Texas, Logan Heights, in 1954 known as a RTC D8 "REDBIRD ONE" ? This unit was later, attached to the Texas National Guard 49th Armord Division based at Dallas Love Field.

This unit was later assigned to the Fourth Army Reserve into an INTEL unit at Dallas's Love Field. The Commanding officer for this small group was Captain Edward G Seiwell, previous OSS WWII who worked with Wm. Harvey and 'Wild Bill' Donovan before the CIA was formed. This unit was sometimes called, "The Praetorian Guard" a specialized operational force attached to the Pentagon, which later received training at 'The School of The Americas in Georgia.

Any background information would be appreciated.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/a...vn-bde.htm
Aviation Brigade - 49th Armored Division "Alamo Brigade"

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archiv...elPageId=2
FBI file generated by SAC in Cincinnati indicates Tosh was arrested in Columbus, Ohio on Jan. 29, 1959 for passing a forged check at Morehouse Fashions. The FBI prepared a dossier on him indicating he was born in Panama City, FL on 11-25-37; father was William W. Plumlee of Dallas, TX and mother Margaret J. Morgan of 3509 Lexington in Dallas. He had two half brothers (Morgan) and left high school in 10th grade and completed school in Army. He was married, had two sons and a daughter and divorced in 1958.

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archiv...PageId=234
Dial Duwayne Ryder was in 49th Armored Division of Texas National Guard. He worked in Irving Sports Shop and called FBI about doing work for Oswald to change the rifle. He testified at Warren Commission, as did the Dallas reporter who wrote the story that was picked up by AP wire a week after the assassination.
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archiv...geId=20235

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Post #4
I think the car was register to a "Captain Edward G Seiwell" ; Dallas (Highland Park) Texas. My parents, Clarence M Morgam, my step father, lived at 3509 Lexington around the block from George Cassels. I was married earlier (1954 to "Joan Cassels" the daughter of George. George sold a Tombstone to Siewell for one of Seiwell's relatives. I cannot go (at this time) into how I know this because it involves other people and I have not asked for their permission to do so. However, the FBI did know this in 1964. Ref; Captain Edward G Siewell, fourth Army Reserve, INTEL, Dallas Love Field. Dallas #105 Naturality Matters. Seiwell was my CO at Love Field around 1954-55. Seiwell was a regular at "Ed Maclamora's (?) "Sportatorium" on Industrial Blvd, Dallas Texas ( not far from Oak Cliff and one of the three Dallas Cubans "safe house" ( Harlendale, Zangs Blvd, and Beckley street. Beckley Street was behind where Lee rented a room for a while. Ref; investigators Jim Marrs, Nigel Turner, and Oliver Stone's investigative crew.) Hope this helps to some degree.
Tosh

Post #9 in same thread:
Geroge Casels was a "Tombstone salesman" for a firm out of GA. At one time he did work as a new car salesman not far from Love Field, on Lemmon Ave. I do not know the years he worked there but it was part time. The picture was taken at the back of the house, next to an alley. I can't remember where Walker lived but for some reason I think it was Cedar Springs not far from Turtle Creek, and not far from the MKT rail road tracts. (Cedar Springs and at the corner of perhaps Cole Ave or Travis Street) Any information on this would be apreciated.
Post #13
Larry, the source for Klihr as owner of the plate is CE1351, an FBI report in the 26 volumes. Klihr was an acquaintance of Walker's and lived in Irving. As you say, I believe that the Dallas police records also disclose Klihr as the plate owner. I believe the plate was taken from Klihr's car and put on someone else's.
Roy Bierma

Post #19:
I believe Tosh...the eradicated license plate would show that Walker was with CAPTAIN SIEWELL from MILITARY INTELLIGENCE stationed at
Dallas Love Field..........
Shanet
Post #47:
Note to All:

All speculation. Nothing factual even going back to opinions expressed by others who have been interviewed over the years in reference to this lic. and have pushed the Cubans angle with their wild speculations and here say rumours...their driving to Dallas and all that crap and other stories that was no way connected with any CIA OPS of the time.. All independents..., All speculations.

I too can speculate; go into the Fourth Army Reserve when they were HDQ'ed at Dallas Love Field. (The 4th became the 5th Army, merged I think, some years later.) The personal records were destoryed in the big St Louis fire of 72 or so... However there are alt records that can be found in Austin Texas. Now in those records are the autos reg to get into areas restricted to MI... Find the time frame Capt Ed Seiwell 4th Army was there...(its been said he doesn't exist.. but that too is not fact another false rumor.. find him.... Dallas telephone director or utility bills and at Austin, etc...) He is a hard man to find...there is a picture of an auto parked in front of where all the inductees (draftees) took their physicals (Dallas Love Field 4th Army) before being sworn in to the regular army.. ..Look at the lic number of the car parked out front of this building. I have seen the picture.., but that is hearsay and I can't be trusted. I think the place in Austin is with the Texas National Guard at Camp Maybry (??)(that's what I call the Army Camp)

And another place to find FACTUAL information is the 5th Army records on the Fourth Army Reserve. (the old hidden records that are real dusty... they were missed in the big purged and fire...

I know this will offend some experts BUT...Do some leg work... go out there and find it... Be researchers instead of taking third party hearsay as fact which have been thrown to you to take you away from the truth....Do the work you should be doing and don't listen to anyone...including me...Just go document the facts, then pass them around to each other ... now that you know where to go... Or do you want me to get it and give it to you while you sit back and sip your beer... Thanks for the information.

I'm sorry. I did not mean to speculate or be an expert.... Tosh
P.S An expert is: ( X ) is an unknown quantity. (Spurt) is a drip under pressure.....thus (XSPURT)

Post #49:
Tosh, the Texas State Adjutant-General's Office in Austin did find the records of Captain Edward G. Seiwell. He enlisted in the Texas Forty-ninth Cavalry Recon Squadron in 1947 was upgraded to second Lt and finally transferred as a Captain to the National Guard's 49th Armored Division in February of 1950. His records show he resigned from the National Guard a month later in 1950. That might be a start for anybody who wants to pursue it with the Adjutant Generals office.
-- Larry Hancock

Post #50:
Larry: Note In 1952 Captain Seiwell went back into service with the Forth Army Reserve and was based at Dallas Love Field.. The same place as the Texas 49th Armord Div.

I too was in the Texas National Guard 49th Armored Div before I went into the regular Army in 1953 at Ft Bliss Texas... I also went back into the National Guard and then transferred into the 4th Army Reserve in 1954. Capt Siewell was my CO officer at Love Field in 1954 until 1956... Do you have my military files? If so who signed off on my becoming a CPL in 1954? So am I lying? You say he resigned the Guard, true... but he actually transferred to the regular Army Reserve, the same as I did... Can't find the records? Can you find mine? Why not?... perhaps it is the unit we were in... If I prove this to you will I get an apology? It seems to say I am fabricating the Seiwell information... so therefore then everything I say is now under question... because Seiwell resigned the Guard in 1950.... Is this how it works? That might be a start for any serious researcher... As I said in my other Post... Go into the records of the Forth Army Reserve, Dallas Love Field for the year 1954 Capt Edward G Seiwell and CPL.William R Plumlee. I think you will find that was a Tank Bat at the fourth... then into a INTEL unit at Love Field with the fourth .... Then have a beer on me...Tosh Plumlee

Post #54:
In order to help research; the following should be of interest: Please Read and confirm.

Enlistment Record of William Robert Plumlee United States Army Forth Army Reserve Dallas Love Field Texas: Recap:

S/N 18389060; 9th of Feb 1955; grade CPL; Auth for grade 25-1; enlisted under authority of (NGR25-1) For service in NGS Texas; Company C 156Tank Battalion. Forth Army Reserve; DoB 11 25 37; civil trade or occupatiom Aircraft Mech. Southwest Airmotive Dallas Love Field; Enlistment record: 22Oct52 thu 8th Feb53 NG Enl s/n25926077 Pvt disc. HonMin; Disc. 8Feb53; re enl. 28th Sept53 thu 2Mar54USAR
4th Army; 18389060 Grade at disc. CPL; 3Mar54 thu 2Jul 18389060 rank CPL. USA Ft Bliss Texas assn. temp dty 6Jul54-No Rec of Disc. tnsf. Texas 4th Army Res, Dallas Love Field, Dallas Texas. Co C156Tk Bn.CO Capt. Edward G Seiwell; Capt. Gilbert B Cook; 2nd Lt. Charles R Brannon, Arty Ft Bliss Texas; MOS: WR Plumlee 1795, 3795 Tank Crew man Tk Comander, Sherman Tank. Cpl. Plumlee Mos 'Unknown; Unknown" Ft Bliss Texas; Texas National Guard; Unknown. OO Records at Office of Adjutant General State of Texas Camp Mabry, Texas. Texas National Guard; Texas Forth Army Reserv; Certified Copy of Available Document By; XXX referenced doc. (run a check on Edward G Seiwell Forth Army Reserve and the 49th Armored Div will also come up... why only half of his record is presented to researchers?

I would be happy to post the original copies of these 'Lost, Burned, and misplaced records, that could never be found in all these years.., that I found at Camp Mabry two years ago on my research while in Texas seeing my daughter Leslie and grandson. However, I am sure I would be accused of tampering with them... I cannot research myself... hence I can sure as hell point the way for others and someone else can go get the documentation and tamper with it... I get the drift of what's going on out there...Burn me once..shame on me..., burn me twice???......... I can read between the lines... I am close to something people are getting jumpy... got to be stopped. Right? Tosh

P.S. Larry. Perhaps you might have taken me wrong on how I said what I just posted. It was not directed toward you in any negative way. I respect your research and consider you one of the dedicated, as to the search for truth. My intent is to only fill in some of the blanks... and I only wanted the world to know there are many blanks... what I posted is just one link..there are others. If I can I will continue to point out documentation and facts to confirm(?) various matters I was connected with and know about. I see that as "working together" for a common cause... Sorry if I offended you.. it was not intentional I assure you.... Tosh
"History records that the Money Changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance." --James Madison
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