09-03-2013, 08:14 PM
David Josephs Wrote:Peter Lemkin Wrote:David Josephs Wrote:Not all the cops have a white shoulder "patch"... but the one that winds up leading the tramps does...
as does this one on the RR overpass.... I've tried to make a point about Wise and Bass and the tramps in that there is some seriopus confusion over who was in those photos of the tramps...
This man is very suspicious from my analysis of Wise/Bass and the two sets of tramps..., imo.
DJ
I believe no one has ever identified those 'police' as DPD. Both Proudy and White [Jack], as well as many others, felt the way they were dressed and their 'stand down' posture with the weapons and their 'collars' shows they were actors leading a few conspirators away. They were either lookouts, diversions or some such...not shooters. There is no record of their arrest. No names, no bookings.
The cops in the tramps photos were identified, albeit not conclusively as Wise and Bass... yet the attached shows how they are not the same cops in the Lansdale photo as on Houston...
While Wise claims in his fbi statement that he and Bass are the only two seen in these images.. why would Wise lie?
How do you come by your conclusion they were not shooters... that they were lookouts or some other such thing Peter? Based on what evidence?
Sure would be nice to have a reference, link or image you can offer to help us understand your conclusions.
There is quite a bit of documentation whereby a variety of cops are named... and dismissed as not possible (attached) and Chambers plays a role as his name appears on the three arrest reports...
Doyle, Abrahms and Gedney were indeed booked and spent 2 or 3 days in jail... according to their own statements whereas Wise tells us that Decker et al releases these other three not long after being brough to him.
The three in the photos were not those three men...... in fact, one of the dpd cops testified to those three not being the only "tramps" arrested that day...
the question that begs to be asked is WHY parade them from RR yard, thru DP as to make it so obvious in the first place...
THAT to me is the DP aspect of their involvement at that point
Cheers
DJ
As I remember [going on memory here, sorry, best I can do under current circumstances] the names and information of any of them allegedly spending any time in jail [i.e. booked] first became known only a few years ago. Before that they had simply vanished into thin air....which I think is what really happened. I don't think those two 'police' are DPD - or not the officers named and I certainly do NOT think the names of the 'three' are real names associated with those three men. They are passing Landsdale who is passing between the dangerous arrestees and a wall [fence] - not what anyone would do. The 'stand down' posture of the 'police' look at how they are NOT guarding their prisoners, not watching them, guns NOT on the ready - and the President was just murdered!....there wasn't a petty robbery or just three hobos found sleeping in a train!!!!! Asfor the path of the parade, I have no ideas.....but likely to hide in plain sight AND to enable the pass by Lansdale. As for why I don't think they are shooters - I have no proofs - but from my research about how such operations are carried out and the patterns I have discerned from Dallas, the shooters have to be removed completely, immediately. They were in safe houses, cars and planes within 15-30 minutes of the shooting.The others can hang out and slowly drift away - e.g. TUM and DSM, Radioman, the fake SS agents, the 'Tramps'...others. The Plaza was full to bursting with operatives, lookouts, people to confuse, doubles, lookie-loos there just to watch the hit they knew was coming. The other 2/3 near the Plaza were ordinary citizens. Not all the DPD were in on 'it'...surely; a select few were, and that's all that was needed - as only a handful of DPD gave a damn if JFK would be killed. They mostly hated him for their own yahoo reasons. R. White certainly was, IMO. One can name some others highly suspect of foreknowledge. The command not to ride near the Limo and not to protect - let the SS do all that; as well as the DPD complicity in Ruby's murder of LHO all point to one thing. Craig was the only real dissenting voice and I believe he was murdered for that.
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