It's All Been a Tremendous Lark

[Peter Lemkin]

The form of our American democracy was based on the free flow of information available to anyone on an equal basis.


The founding fathers were wise enough to create a system where no group or consensus of the powerful was above facts.


I don't think Dawn is being honest. Since Don was defending me, any apology to him is in fact an apology to me. It's just my opinion but I think the biggest harm to Deep Politics would come from creating a political group consensus above facts and using that consensus to disparage people and falsely label them agents provocateur and then successfully intellectually and physically exile them based on those false accusations. I believe Dawn called Charles' accusations "paranoia". I myself am more interested in the facts that induced that "paranoia" on a Deep Political basis. Is this a Charles soap opera or a site that discusses Deep Politics? It's my opinion that those Deep Politics should always be soundly based on the truth.

You, IMHO, have NO idea of what our 'form of government was or is - nor who the founding father's were and what they believed. A few [very, very few] of the writers of the declaration of independence and the bill of rights had some idea of democracy; most were not democratic, but oligarchs who only wanted to be rid of Britain's oppressive taxes et al. They, to me, were troglodytes who everything as a commodity - the land, the Native Americans, the slaves, women, those white males without money and property. It was only by the blood, sweat and tears - the battles of the Average American poor, worker, women, blacks, Native Americans that any progress was made - not one iota was 'granted' by those rich white men of privilege, who no more believed in true democracy or checks and balances and all the other civic/history textbook myths than they did that the moon was made of green cheese. John Jay, the first Supreme Court Head Justice famously said, "Those who own America, ought to rule it." Some democrats...and most of the 'fathers' were slave holders, didn't allow poor whites or women to vote...and one could go on and on. Better read Zinn's A People's History of the United States......