28-03-2013, 12:55 PM
David Josephs Wrote:\Jim DiEugenio Wrote:David:
If Gordon is referring to whoever shot Tippit, well its never going to be known. But I think it was more than one person.
As per the stuff you are bringing up from Horne, look I will be reviewing Kaleidoscope for CTKA soon.
What people forget is that part of Bethesda was a morgue for the military. A war was going on at the time. Therefore, just because JFK was killed that day, that does not mean he was the only one just because the eyes of the world were on him. Therefore, what Horne does is not fully describe report he finds so bracing, and he leaves out the context around it. Simply because he was out to endorse Lifton.
I will go over all this in my review.
I look forward to it Jim...
Are you of the opinion that a black hearse with men in black suits and men in white smocks require a gaggle of military personnel to bring a single metal shipping casket of a soldier killed in battle into the morgue?
Who in turn see JFK's body in a body bag within this metal casket... or they are given the impression that JFK is in this casket/body bag...
and then have yet another group of men tell you THEY brought a casket they believed to contain JFK into the ante-room of the morgue at around 7:20 and then LIE about remaining with this casket...
and yet another group of men leave a document for history of yet another entry of a casket at 8pm... well after the chief autopsist says he was already working with the body?
Endorsing Lifton's ideas from 1980 with evidence from 1997 that not only confirms but further substantiates the overall concept of three casket entries and alteration of the wounds should be thoroughly examined and pulled apart.
yet you did write this Jim, yes? and it is followed by a review of the review by Dragoo who gives little credibility to the arguments against... I respect both your opinions in these matters VERY much...
Has your mind been changed about this "book" so much so that Livingstone is able to refute Horne/Lifton with credibility?
12-15-2012 06:13 PM #2Jim DiEugenio
You know having read the preview, I don't know what to make of this "book".
Its pretty clear that Livingstone still despises Lifton. ANd he is going after Horne since Horne is and was a disciple of Best Evidence.
But man, Harry is such an unorganized and undisciplined non fiction author. In the best sense, his books are not really books. THey are a collection of essays without real flow and ebb and no arc e.g. High Treason 2, Killing the Truth. (Martin Hay listed this as one of the worst books ever on the JFK case and I agree.) And this carries over into his attempt at criticism. Its hard for him to separate the personal from the professional. Which is what you have to do as a critic. And you have to write clearly and in an organized fashion in order to make sure the reader follows your argument.
I have never read his novels, I sure hope they are better written than this.
I have only read parts of Killing the truth. And those parts were horrible. So I went to the index and looked up some things. Like his section on my dear (now deceased) friend Carl Oglesby. LIES. Total bullshit. So I would not ever get any of his books. THis one was given to me by Walt Brown on Jay Harrison's deathbed. Jay had all the books and Walt told me this one belonged in the fireplace. From what I read I agree, however I don't burn books.
Dawn