29-04-2013, 10:38 PM
Greg Burnham Wrote:[
If I am correct about the unpredictability of long term climate behavior due to the reasons I have given, especially Chaos Theory, then the question becomes why have climate scientists who are presumably well versed in Chaos Theory and its implications on the predictability of complex systems, such as, weather and climate, failed to even address it.
The Chaos theory is too vague and general in this case. The main issue Greg doesn't seem to grasp is that all scientific records show all known temperature rises in Earth's history are accompanied by CO2 increases whether before or after the temperature rises. The flaw in Greg's argument is that it indirectly suggests that even though we are experiencing a very well founded unprecedented increase in CO2 that somehow through "CO2 is plant food" logic there will be no accompanying temperature increase even though the scientific record shows there is no increase in CO2 that wasn't accompanied by a corresponding increase in temperature. What Greg is indirectly suggesting here is that this present CO2 spike will be the first one ever to not be accompanied by a corresponding temperature increase. It is actually he who should be answering the questions here not me. He should be made to answer how exactly this CO2 increase will be the only one in history to not show any temperature increase and why?
Referencing the Chaos theory isn't valid here because the Greenhouse Effect in the closed system of Earth's atmosphere is predictable enough, especially when it is accompanied by the firm scientific record of the ice core samples.
Greg gives no objective scientific heed to the obvious point that there are no natural occurrences of CO2 rises happening prior to temperatures rises in the ice core record exactly because there has never been any human-caused insertion of vast amounts of subterranean CO2 into the atmosphere before.
Somebody should remind Greg that the scientists he questioned happen to have their Global Warming models presently verifying.
"Gibberish"? That's a foolish thing to say. Or, like Global Warming denialists, are we just going to ignore what we can't answer like Greg does?