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11/4/07
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The Oswald Transfer:Harry Holmes:
Oswald was to be transferred to a "federal holdover" at the County
Courthouse.
Bill Courson:
Decker expected to handle the Oswald transfer, and do it at 3 a.m., but when
he called, Curry said they were going to do it. Curry had yielded to
political pressure.
L.D. Montgomery:
FBI agent James Bookhout expected that Oswald would be shot during the
transfer.
Charles Arnett, Dallas Police:
He and Patrick Dean handled basement security for the transfer. Dean was a
friend of Ruby.
Ruby "ran right by me" and shot Oswald. Oswald died instantly [not true]
Orville Jones:
Involved in basement security for the transfer.
Later handled the investigation of the Oswald shooting, but said he didn't
know whether Dean was in charge of security or not.
Rio Pierce:
Tippit's supervisor was involved in basement security for the Oswald
transfer.
There was no screening of people entering through City Hall.
Knew Ruby, would have recognized him, didn't see him. He could have come in
through City Hall with reporters; there were three other options, but the
ramp was also possible, though not very likely (as he saw no sign of Ruby as
he pulled out).
James Leavelle:
Ruby told him that he came down the Main St. ramp.
LC. Graves, brother-in-law of Paul Bentley (polygraph business together):
City Manager Elgin Crull was an ex-newsman, and ordered Curry to transfer
Oswald with the press present. But when Ruby shot Oswald, Crull let Curry
take all the blame.
Roy Vaughn:
Crull or Cabell ordered the public transfer of Oswald.
Knew Ruby, didn't see him enter by the ramp. Napoleon Daniels told him that
day that Ruby definitely didn't enter by the ramp-later, he changed his
story.
Don Flusche also told him he was watching from across the street the whole
time, and didn't see Ruby in the area at all.
Ruby likely entered via one of the alley entrances.
Was told by the DPD that they knew someone let Ruby in, and he assumed they
were referring to Patrick Dean.
Donald Flusche:
Was standing across the street from Roy Vaughn, had a view of the whole
sidewalk there, never saw Ruby, he definitely didn't enter via the ramp.
Sgt. Stavis Ellis:
Mayor Cabell and City Manager Elgin Crull ordered Chief Curry to make the
transfer when newsmen could witness it. Curry was later offered a
high-paying security job to shut up about it.
Ruby entered the basement with a camera crew. [This is how he entered
Parkland Hospital on Friday, according to newsman Roy Stamps.]
Edgar Smith, Dallas Police:
Patrick Dean [in charge of security for the Oswald transfer] was a drinker
and a ladies' man.
Ruby's Motive:
Jack Faulkner:
Ruby was no great fan of JFK.
Elmo Cunningham:
He knew Ruby well. Ruby never mentioned JFK.
Thought Ruby shot Oswald because it would make him rich.
Gerald Hill, DPD:
Thought Ruby shot Oswald because it would make him rich.
James Leavelle:
Ruby once told him he wanted to come upon an officer in trouble so that he
could save him. He wanted to be a hero.
Joe Cody:
Ruby wasn't impulsive.
Bill Alexander:
He thought killing Oswald would make him a celebrity, he'd open a club in
Manhattan, write a book, and make a fortune.
Tom Howard:
Orville Jones:
Just after Ruby's arrest, they got a call saying there was a writ for his
release. Capt. Fritz said to ignore it.
Bill Alexander:
Just after Ruby's arrest, Tom Howard tried to get him out on a writ.
Donald Flusche:
Tom Howard likely would have gotten Ruby off.
Joe Cody:
Ruby expected a light sentence.
Al Maddox:
Ruby expected to get off.
Bill Alexander, Asst. D.A.:
Tom Howard probably could have gotten Ruby off light, but Melvin Belli came
in and alienated everyone and got Ruby the death penalty.
W.W. Mabra:
Tom Howard died from falling off a horse.
Ruby: Connected to the Mafia?
Hugh Aynesworth: such ties were "dreamed".
Roy Westphal, Dallas Police Intelligence:
Though in the intelligence division, Westphal knew almost nothing about an
organized crime presence in Dallas.
Joe Cody:
Ruby told him that he had been labor "muscle" in Chicago.
Bill Alexander:
Ruby was a blabbermouth. The Mafia wouldn't have trusted him.
But Alexander also didn't believe that Carlos Marcello had any influence in
Dallas, or that Joe Campisi or Joe Civello were connected to the Mafia [but
Civello attended the 1957 Mafia national conference at Apalachin NY]
Was Ruby a homosexual?:
Jack Faulkner:
Ruby admitted being homosexual.
Gus Rose:
Ruby was homosexual.
Rio Pierce:
Ruby was a suspected homosexual.
L.C. Graves, Dallas Police:
Ruby liked the women.
Joe Cody:
Ruby wasn't homosexual.
Ruby and the Police:
W.G. Lumpkin:
A lot of officers knew Ruby.
Jack Faulkner:
"Everybody knew Jack Ruby."
Vincent Drain:
Knew and liked Ruby.
Elmo Cunningham:
Knew Ruby well, had worked security at his first place in Dallas.
Gerry Hill:
Knew Ruby. A lot of officers did.
John Toney, Dallas Police:
Knew Ruby.
Capt. W.R. Westbook, Dallas Police:
Half of the police knew Ruby and considered him a friend. A lot of policemen
went to his clubs.
L.C. Graves, escorted Oswald:
Knew Ruby at all of his clubs in Dallas. It was a bad idea to accept favors
from him.
James Leavelle, escorted Oswald:
Knew Ruby since 1950.
Orville Jones:
A lot of police knew Ruby. He was a good source.
Charles Arnett:
Patrick Dean was a friend of Ruby.
Rio Pierce:
Knew Ruby.
Roy Vaughn:
Knew Ruby.
Donald Flusche:
Knew Ruby. Ruby knew how to "play irrational."
Ruby had lots of police acquaintances, 60-80. He was considered a clown.
Joe Cody:
Ruby was a friend. Cody bought Ruby the pistol used to shoot Oswald. They
used to ice skate together once or twice a week.
There were ten or twelve police drinking in the Carousel Club every night.
About 200 officers knew Ruby; he would charge them 35 cents for a $1.50
beer.
Bill Courson:
Had recently arrested Ruby for threatening Jada. Before he could make the
arrest, Jada had second thoughts and tried to get the warrant canceled, but
the judge refused. She then tipped off Ruby, and he wasn't there when police
arrived. He later came in voluntarily, and was soon released.
Knew Ruby.
Bill Alexander:
Knew Ruby. He wasn't a "police buff," he was just protecting his beer
license. It had to be approved annually by three agencies, including the
Dallas Police.
Ruby's Illness and Death:
Al Maddox:
Locally powerful Judge Lew Sterrett took the regular jail doctor off the
Ruby case, and brought in a small, pock-marked doctor from Chicago who gave
Ruby shots.
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The Oswald Transfer:Harry Holmes:
Oswald was to be transferred to a "federal holdover" at the County
Courthouse.
Bill Courson:
Decker expected to handle the Oswald transfer, and do it at 3 a.m., but when
he called, Curry said they were going to do it. Curry had yielded to
political pressure.
L.D. Montgomery:
FBI agent James Bookhout expected that Oswald would be shot during the
transfer.
Charles Arnett, Dallas Police:
He and Patrick Dean handled basement security for the transfer. Dean was a
friend of Ruby.
Ruby "ran right by me" and shot Oswald. Oswald died instantly [not true]
Orville Jones:
Involved in basement security for the transfer.
Later handled the investigation of the Oswald shooting, but said he didn't
know whether Dean was in charge of security or not.
Rio Pierce:
Tippit's supervisor was involved in basement security for the Oswald
transfer.
There was no screening of people entering through City Hall.
Knew Ruby, would have recognized him, didn't see him. He could have come in
through City Hall with reporters; there were three other options, but the
ramp was also possible, though not very likely (as he saw no sign of Ruby as
he pulled out).
James Leavelle:
Ruby told him that he came down the Main St. ramp.
LC. Graves, brother-in-law of Paul Bentley (polygraph business together):
City Manager Elgin Crull was an ex-newsman, and ordered Curry to transfer
Oswald with the press present. But when Ruby shot Oswald, Crull let Curry
take all the blame.
Roy Vaughn:
Crull or Cabell ordered the public transfer of Oswald.
Knew Ruby, didn't see him enter by the ramp. Napoleon Daniels told him that
day that Ruby definitely didn't enter by the ramp-later, he changed his
story.
Don Flusche also told him he was watching from across the street the whole
time, and didn't see Ruby in the area at all.
Ruby likely entered via one of the alley entrances.
Was told by the DPD that they knew someone let Ruby in, and he assumed they
were referring to Patrick Dean.
Donald Flusche:
Was standing across the street from Roy Vaughn, had a view of the whole
sidewalk there, never saw Ruby, he definitely didn't enter via the ramp.
Sgt. Stavis Ellis:
Mayor Cabell and City Manager Elgin Crull ordered Chief Curry to make the
transfer when newsmen could witness it. Curry was later offered a
high-paying security job to shut up about it.
Ruby entered the basement with a camera crew. [This is how he entered
Parkland Hospital on Friday, according to newsman Roy Stamps.]
Edgar Smith, Dallas Police:
Patrick Dean [in charge of security for the Oswald transfer] was a drinker
and a ladies' man.
Ruby's Motive:
Jack Faulkner:
Ruby was no great fan of JFK.
Elmo Cunningham:
He knew Ruby well. Ruby never mentioned JFK.
Thought Ruby shot Oswald because it would make him rich.
Gerald Hill, DPD:
Thought Ruby shot Oswald because it would make him rich.
James Leavelle:
Ruby once told him he wanted to come upon an officer in trouble so that he
could save him. He wanted to be a hero.
Joe Cody:
Ruby wasn't impulsive.
Bill Alexander:
He thought killing Oswald would make him a celebrity, he'd open a club in
Manhattan, write a book, and make a fortune.
Tom Howard:
Orville Jones:
Just after Ruby's arrest, they got a call saying there was a writ for his
release. Capt. Fritz said to ignore it.
Bill Alexander:
Just after Ruby's arrest, Tom Howard tried to get him out on a writ.
Donald Flusche:
Tom Howard likely would have gotten Ruby off.
Joe Cody:
Ruby expected a light sentence.
Al Maddox:
Ruby expected to get off.
Bill Alexander, Asst. D.A.:
Tom Howard probably could have gotten Ruby off light, but Melvin Belli came
in and alienated everyone and got Ruby the death penalty.
W.W. Mabra:
Tom Howard died from falling off a horse.
Ruby: Connected to the Mafia?
Hugh Aynesworth: such ties were "dreamed".
Roy Westphal, Dallas Police Intelligence:
Though in the intelligence division, Westphal knew almost nothing about an
organized crime presence in Dallas.
Joe Cody:
Ruby told him that he had been labor "muscle" in Chicago.
Bill Alexander:
Ruby was a blabbermouth. The Mafia wouldn't have trusted him.
But Alexander also didn't believe that Carlos Marcello had any influence in
Dallas, or that Joe Campisi or Joe Civello were connected to the Mafia [but
Civello attended the 1957 Mafia national conference at Apalachin NY]
Was Ruby a homosexual?:
Jack Faulkner:
Ruby admitted being homosexual.
Gus Rose:
Ruby was homosexual.
Rio Pierce:
Ruby was a suspected homosexual.
L.C. Graves, Dallas Police:
Ruby liked the women.
Joe Cody:
Ruby wasn't homosexual.
Ruby and the Police:
W.G. Lumpkin:
A lot of officers knew Ruby.
Jack Faulkner:
"Everybody knew Jack Ruby."
Vincent Drain:
Knew and liked Ruby.
Elmo Cunningham:
Knew Ruby well, had worked security at his first place in Dallas.
Gerry Hill:
Knew Ruby. A lot of officers did.
John Toney, Dallas Police:
Knew Ruby.
Capt. W.R. Westbook, Dallas Police:
Half of the police knew Ruby and considered him a friend. A lot of policemen
went to his clubs.
L.C. Graves, escorted Oswald:
Knew Ruby at all of his clubs in Dallas. It was a bad idea to accept favors
from him.
James Leavelle, escorted Oswald:
Knew Ruby since 1950.
Orville Jones:
A lot of police knew Ruby. He was a good source.
Charles Arnett:
Patrick Dean was a friend of Ruby.
Rio Pierce:
Knew Ruby.
Roy Vaughn:
Knew Ruby.
Donald Flusche:
Knew Ruby. Ruby knew how to "play irrational."
Ruby had lots of police acquaintances, 60-80. He was considered a clown.
Joe Cody:
Ruby was a friend. Cody bought Ruby the pistol used to shoot Oswald. They
used to ice skate together once or twice a week.
There were ten or twelve police drinking in the Carousel Club every night.
About 200 officers knew Ruby; he would charge them 35 cents for a $1.50
beer.
Bill Courson:
Had recently arrested Ruby for threatening Jada. Before he could make the
arrest, Jada had second thoughts and tried to get the warrant canceled, but
the judge refused. She then tipped off Ruby, and he wasn't there when police
arrived. He later came in voluntarily, and was soon released.
Knew Ruby.
Bill Alexander:
Knew Ruby. He wasn't a "police buff," he was just protecting his beer
license. It had to be approved annually by three agencies, including the
Dallas Police.
Ruby's Illness and Death:
Al Maddox:
Locally powerful Judge Lew Sterrett took the regular jail doctor off the
Ruby case, and brought in a small, pock-marked doctor from Chicago who gave
Ruby shots.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass