The Sponsor/Facilitator/Mechanic Model Applied to 9/11

[Magda Hassan]

Charles,

This is an interesting criticism. I am not especially interested in the study of deep politics. I am not even sure what you mean by that. I assume it is a view of the world which sees everything (almost) as directed by the hidden *deep state*. I'm probably wrong. If you want to explain it in a paragraph of two I would be interested.

What I have done when I venture into *politics* and the behavior of political forces around the world is take a more cause and effect / stimulus response approach. Party A treats parties B like shit and B kicks back. Why A behaves as it does may be for multiple reasons... racism, or that B happens to be in the way of some economic agenda and so B gets it on the chin. Or perhaps B is used to acheive A's agenda as in slavery.

I see the MIC as driving much of the agenda for the USA and the USA dominates the world these days. The capitalist system seems to support and or be swept up in the empire agenda... that is let's make money any way we can...

When I examine 9/11 I look at the technical aspects of the destruction and I see that the uusual suspects spun the hell out of the event to advance the MIC agenda. As I don't see evidence of CD as others think exists... I dismiss the MIHOP and probably the deep state frame. I think most will agree that the 911 was used to gin up war in the ME and it a bogus case.

Color me naive.

This is not a technical forum... and so perhaps this is not the place to argue physics and engineering... disciplines that Fetzer seems to be not very conversant with but that doesn't seem to prevent him from passing himself off as some sort of expert on technical matters. I think he makes a fool of himself, but others can draw their own conclusions.

Many, not having the requisite technical background nor the time to study the structure and the data come at 911 from a political perspective and then cite supposed experts who provide analysis which support their politically derived pre conception/conclusions. And since we have a lying government this is understandable... and they DID lie about much of 911. But we know that among the objectives of their lies was the GWOT and wars in the ME. And the concept of spinning lies is very different from the concept of creating the underlying event that they then lie or spin about. All one has to do is watch the officials commenting on any world event... they are spinning like a quasar.

nuff said

I don't assume any posture... that is your perception.

WOW!!:

"Charles,

This is an interesting criticism. I am not especially interested in the study of deep politics."
Jeffrey

This may have been addressed before, as I am re-reading this thread ....I recall that these words also jumped out at me when I first read them
If you are not interested then why would you join a forum by this name?

I dis- like all the bickering but to say these words is freaking asking for it. Why not just put a sign on your ass that says "kick me, I deserve it".

Dawn

Yes, this has been addressed before. Several times. Jeffrey was invited to participate this forum along with a group of others, who had been involved in 911 research and discussions elsewhere. He has contributed very good information on a technical and knowledgable basis as to those events using his knowledge of the building itself and his skills as an architect. His voice was a vision of sanity compared to the Fetzerania phantasy coming from you know who. He was much provoked by Fetzer's appalling forum ettiquette as well. And as can be seen Charles has, as usual, had a go at him here. He is new to 'deep political thinking' as such so it is a learning curve for him. You've possibly been getting the same emails and PMs I have Dawn....