17-06-2013, 12:57 PM
Martin Hay Wrote:No amount of huffing and puffing will change the FACT that Roger Boyajian's report does NOT say that the casket he and his men picked up contained the body of President Kennedy. Nor the FACT that he did NOT recall the arrival of Kennedy's casket.
Nor the FACT that Dennis David had no personal knowledge of who was in the grey casket he thought arrived at approximately 6:45 pm.
Nor the FACT that Paul O'Connor said that he helped lift Kennedy's body out of a casket that he said arrived at 8:00 pm.
Nor the FACT that Donald Rebenstich, Robert Muma, and Paul Neigler all said that two caskets were employed as a security measure.
Those are the FACTS that no objections, regardless of how needlessly verbose they are, can change. Those of us who care about the truth and are not committed to untenable theories will accept them. Others will warp, twist, and spin those FACTS in order to make them fit their preconceived conclusions. They are not to be taken seriously.
Martin Hay:
Unfortunately, Martin, the "facts" you prefer are filtered through a prism of intense personal animus towards me and my work, and it is you who are doing the "huffing and puffing":
Roger Boyajian's security detail was requested to report to the morgue to handle the arrival of JFK's body. So who's coffin are you attempting to imply was delivered to Bethesda at 6:35 PM EST, and which was the subject of his reportthat of Mickey Mouse?
Dennis David repeatedly said to me that the coffin arrived "a good 20 minutes" before the naval ambulance so that is 6:35 PM (not 6:45 PM, Martin. Do the math, Martin. It will be good mental exercise: 6:55 PM 20 minutes = 6:35 PM. And that's what the Boyajian report specifies as the time of arrival. That's called "corroboration" --in case you have forgotten the meaning of that word.
Paul O'Connor lifted a body out of the shipping casket that arrived at 6:35 PM. That's the preponderance of the evidence. Only in your peculiar world does the shipping casket arrive at 8 PM. What do you think Dr. Humes was looking at when he saw the body arrive at 6:45 PM, Martin? Do you think he was caught up in a time warp? And it was really 8PM?
Yes, Martinthe word "security measure" was in fact used. Dennis David told me all that, on July 2, 1979, when I interviewed him. The agents who arrived in the black hearse said they were employed in using a security measure "in case someone tried to hijack the body."
Only the credulous can fail to see the irony and black humor in that, coming from the men who were delivering JFK's body to the morgue, in a body bag, which was inside that shipping casket!
I think your kind of "argument", Martin, would better be articulated on Saturday Night Live, than in a serious discussion of the evidence pertaining to the assassination of President Kennedy.
DSL
6/17/13, 5 AM PDT
Los Angeles, California