The Head Wounds Revisited

[David Josephs]

A few more questions: We know that a shipping casket was delivered at 6:35, David's crew placed it in the ante chamber. Some assume it contained the president's body, but there is no actual verification. Hume says he observed the president's body shortly after that at 6:45 or thereabouts. How did the shipping casket get carried into the morgue proper? I doubt Humes and Boswell did it by themselves. Jenkins and OConnor didn't, they weren't there yet? David's team weren't there either. When did the Ceremonial Coffin get moved from the antechamber to the morgue proper? The FBI men suggest they brought it all the way in immediately on unloading it at 7:17. Were they lying or mistaken? They say they assisted in removing the president body immediately thereafter before being asked to leave for X Rays. Again are they lying or confused? Who placed the presidents body back into the Ceremonial Casket an carried it back to the amabulance? Why believe Osborne's account of a bullet falling out as the body was removed, but ignore the fact that he saw this body fully clothed? OConnor removed the body at around 8:00 but Humes sees it at 6:45? Custer says the X Rays were taken after the Y incision, but also says he saw the Kennedy entourage on his way to develop them. How does one decide who's memory is faulty and who's isn't? The facts are: a shipping casket was delivered at 6:35, a Ceremonial Casket was delivered at 7:17 and a Ceremonial Casket was redeliverd at 8:00. If we can find out who carried these caskets where, and when, we would have a much better idea of what actually occurred. These weren't hard questions to have asked, I am surprised we don't have the answers.

I have read all of the sources you cited, and that's why I am asking these questions. Perhaps you can provide the answers. As to the Humes' time of 6:45, I am merely citing one of Lifton's posts above. He is quoting Humes' AARB testimony: When testifying before the ARRB, Humes was asked: when did you first see the body? His answer: 6: 45 pm.

Here's the exact quote, from the ARRB transcript:

Q: Dr. Humes, when did you first see the body of President Kennedy?:

A: I didn't look at my watch, if I even had a watch on, but I would guess it was 6:45 or 7 o'clock, something like that, (pause) approximately.

If you read all these sources... how is it that you did not find your answers ??? Humes saying 6:45 impeaches his previous testimony inwhich he says it was an hour later... it also completely screws with the 7:17 time..
But yes indeed, Humes does see and alter JFK prior to 7:17.

As I mentioned earlier... Reed talks about taking 16 xrays prior to 8pm... Sibert says Kellerman only too 11 with him as the "official" count... It is not possible to take all those xrays in the 25 minutes...

The rest of your questions are answered... we know who took these caskets in and where these people were in the mean time... Sibert had no knowledge of the MDW and the 8pm casket delivery
The FBI men were NOT IN THE ANTE ROOM when the casket was opened and did not see JFK's body... Humes cannot see the body at 6:45 unless Dennis David and Boyajian and the rest are correct... which they were.

This really is not that complicated - Kellerman orchestrated Bethesda - he walks out of the morgue to meet Greer and the FBI men to bring in the empty casket... and then removes all personnel from the morgue for Xrays... meanwhile Reed had been taking and developing xrays since 6:45.
DJ

1) How did the shipping casket get carried into the morgue proper?
Reed helped carry the casket into the autopsyroom, was present when it was opened, and saw that the body was insidea "plastic bag." [ARRB line15, p. 24]


2) When did the Ceremonial Coffin get moved from the antechamber to the morgue proper?
The FBI men suggest they brought it all the way in immediately on unloading it at 7:17. Were they lying or mistaken?

That's not at all what the FBI men suggest. In fact... http://www.manuscriptservice.com/JWS-FXO/
They were Covering their asses since they had actually let JFK out of their sight for quite a while... sounds to me from 7:17 until 8pm...

These discussions woul[B]d have provided Sibert and O'Neill with a plausible reason for a delay in the start of the autopsy, which may explain their claim to Arlen Specter that "the preparation for the autopsy" began at 7:17 PM. In other words, there was no need for them to enter the autopsy room at 7:17 PM because, as far as they were initially aware, nothing was going on there. However, at some later point, it appears that they realized that there was activity in the autopsy room during their absence. Support for this thesis comes from Sibert's interview with William Law; when asked how long it was from when the body was unwrapped to when they returned to the autopsy room (supposedly after photographs and X-rays were taken), Sibert said, "Probably close to 45 minutes, something like that" [10, p. 244]:
[/B]Law: So, that's how long you were in the cooler room or the anteroom?
Sibert: Maybe out in the hall.
Law: Out in the hall?
Sibert: Yes, we were excluded from where they were working. We had no idea what was going onX-rays or nothin'
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/j...rt_12a.htm

3) Who placed the presidents body back into the Ceremonial Casket an carried it back to the amabulance?
Remains one of the mysteries... between 7:17 and 8pm, the BIG casket was removed from the anteroom and morgue... the FBI did NOT SEE ANOTHER CASKET BROUGHT IN...
They never saw the Joint casket team... http://www.livejournal.com/search/?journ...q=bethesda

After earlier "losing" the casket while chasing a decoy ambulance around the grounds of [B]Bethesda in the darkness, it was imperative to those orchestrating the cover-up that night that the confused and mortified Joint Service Casket Team be allowed to "find the casket" shortly before 8:00 PM, and perform their duly authorized function


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