02-07-2013, 09:49 PM
I would quibble with you, David, but basically we're in-tune.
We're out-of-tune on "pacification". After all, forced focus has been used to drive the masses to acts of individual and collective violence.
Within minutes, as it happened. But "solved" only in terms of its conspiratorial nature.
EXTREME disagreement here. See below.
God, no!
It may be enough as a first step on a long journey to recovery. And I disagree that the Dallas coup d'etat was "military" in nature -- if, that is, you use the modifier to indicate that you believe military officers to be among the conspiracy's Sponsors.
However: A "military style ambush"? Absolutely. A conspiracy facilitated by active duty and retired military officers? Absolutely
Pretty much agreed to.
Absolutely not.
Words and their meanings are important.
I submit that very few of even the most seasoned, insightful investigators of deep political phenomena truly "understand" the history, agendas, and goals of the forces arrayed against us. I can point to Peter Dale Scott, George Michael Evica, James Douglass, most likely Vincent Salandria, and to more narrowly focused yet significant degrees Peter Levenda and -- dare I write his name -- Robert Morningstar.
I believe you to be suggesting -- quite accurately -- that people living in better-educated cultures informed by relatively sophisticated grasps of history and human behavior were quick to accept the truth of conspiracy.
But even they struggle futilely to penetrate the Stygian depths of the waters from which rose the beast who struck JFK -- and Tiberius and Gaius Gracchi, and Jesus Christ, and Teshunka Witko (Crazy Horse), and Mahatma Gandhi, and Abraham Lincoln, and Martin Luther King ... and the untold millions who make up the "collateral damage" of these assaults.
David Josephs Wrote:The frame concept then can be extended to the pacification of the masses ...
We're out-of-tune on "pacification". After all, forced focus has been used to drive the masses to acts of individual and collective violence.
David Josephs Wrote:IDK about you, but in my mind the case was solved ...
Within minutes, as it happened. But "solved" only in terms of its conspiratorial nature.
David Josephs Wrote:... we needn't name the cogs, the spokes or the rim...
EXTREME disagreement here. See below.
David Josephs Wrote:... it is enough to KNOW AND UNDERSTAND that a military coup d'etat occurred on 11/22/63 in the grand ole US of A...
God, no!
It may be enough as a first step on a long journey to recovery. And I disagree that the Dallas coup d'etat was "military" in nature -- if, that is, you use the modifier to indicate that you believe military officers to be among the conspiracy's Sponsors.
However: A "military style ambush"? Absolutely. A conspiracy facilitated by active duty and retired military officers? Absolutely
David Josephs Wrote:... we are still at a place where WE THE PEOPLE cannot admit such an event is even possible let alone having actually happened... the "solving" of this puzzle, the clarifying of the picture in the frame comprises an examination into the depth of human existence and depravity.
Pretty much agreed to.
David Josephs Wrote:The rest of the world sees and understands these forces -
Absolutely not.
Words and their meanings are important.
I submit that very few of even the most seasoned, insightful investigators of deep political phenomena truly "understand" the history, agendas, and goals of the forces arrayed against us. I can point to Peter Dale Scott, George Michael Evica, James Douglass, most likely Vincent Salandria, and to more narrowly focused yet significant degrees Peter Levenda and -- dare I write his name -- Robert Morningstar.
I believe you to be suggesting -- quite accurately -- that people living in better-educated cultures informed by relatively sophisticated grasps of history and human behavior were quick to accept the truth of conspiracy.
But even they struggle futilely to penetrate the Stygian depths of the waters from which rose the beast who struck JFK -- and Tiberius and Gaius Gracchi, and Jesus Christ, and Teshunka Witko (Crazy Horse), and Mahatma Gandhi, and Abraham Lincoln, and Martin Luther King ... and the untold millions who make up the "collateral damage" of these assaults.