14-05-2009, 11:52 AM
(This post was last modified: 14-05-2009, 12:53 PM by David Guyatt.)
I concur Jan. A very highly charged occult film that has many very unpleasant undertones. As I once mentioned there are elements in the film that clearly derive from considerable knowledge of occult rituals.
I am thinking particularly of the masked ball scene at the Long Island mansion that is said (see Wiki entry) to be a "Hierogamy inspired sexual orgy". Wiki's definition of "Hierogamy" (more often known as "Hieros gamos" from the Greek, means "Holy Wedding").
However, the true Heiros Gamos experience has no overt physical sexuality at all as it is a "wedding" of the opposite natures at war in man and, therefore, is a highly charged symbolic experience and represents a pinnacle of achievement.
I'm being completely bloody boring in focusing on this I realize, but the foregoing is simply to emphasis that the Eyes Wide Shut ritual is clearly Satanic in nature (if we use the term "Satanic" to mean negative and destructive, which is how I always apply it - and not necessarily "Goaty").
Kubrick was the joint writer of the film and, it seems to me, was responsible for inserting such an intense scene. I am quite certain that the ritual chanting in this sequence is authentic. And the choice of sountrack music for the scene is also cleverly contrived imo.
See the scene HERE
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The Tamil song in question is:
[quote] "Ithu kadala, ithu naragama", meaning Is it love, is it hell?[\quote]
I am also interested in Nate's reference to 911.
I am thinking particularly of the masked ball scene at the Long Island mansion that is said (see Wiki entry) to be a "Hierogamy inspired sexual orgy". Wiki's definition of "Hierogamy" (more often known as "Hieros gamos" from the Greek, means "Holy Wedding").
However, the true Heiros Gamos experience has no overt physical sexuality at all as it is a "wedding" of the opposite natures at war in man and, therefore, is a highly charged symbolic experience and represents a pinnacle of achievement.
I'm being completely bloody boring in focusing on this I realize, but the foregoing is simply to emphasis that the Eyes Wide Shut ritual is clearly Satanic in nature (if we use the term "Satanic" to mean negative and destructive, which is how I always apply it - and not necessarily "Goaty").
Kubrick was the joint writer of the film and, it seems to me, was responsible for inserting such an intense scene. I am quite certain that the ritual chanting in this sequence is authentic. And the choice of sountrack music for the scene is also cleverly contrived imo.
See the scene HERE
Quote:In the ritual, the incantations in the background are in Romanian, played backwards. The piece, named "Masked Ball", is an adaptation by Jocelyn Pook of her "Backwards Priests."
And
Quote:The background score during the orgy (where Tom Cruise walks from room to room) is a Tamil song sung by Manickam Yogeswaran who is a Carnatic singer..
The Tamil song in question is:
[quote] "Ithu kadala, ithu naragama", meaning Is it love, is it hell?[\quote]
I am also interested in Nate's reference to 911.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14