07-07-2013, 01:55 AM
David, when I was 19 I came across a book by Krishnamurti in my university library, "The Flight of the Eagle." Opening that single book on a cold, dark winter's night, all those years ago now, opened a journey that appears to have no end.
I traveled to Ojai to hear Krishnamurti speak not long after that. The stories I heard of his past matched nothing I understood the current incarnation of him to be saying, and I wanted to understand. I could never put the two together. And, probably still can't. Not completely anyway. I spoke to people who knew him closely. I read every book of his talks I could find, every biography and all the personal accounts of encounters with the man. I've more or less concluded that I will never know what was behind this person, and that it probably doesn't matter much anyway. What is important is the door he pointed to throughout his life.
If I understood your last post correctly, I think our perceptions are more aligned than they are different.
Here's what I think may be going on:
The total, the infinite/immensity, can communicate with the frame currently only through the use of images and form. It is all the current brain can process and understand. There is the use of symbols and the personal to communicate that which is beyond the frame and far from anything remotely personal. But the symbol, the personal, none of it is the "beyond."
These are just pointers, but we tend to get lost in them, assign value to them, because it is all we can understand. The immensity/total can touch form, but form cannot touch it.
We live our lives inside this frame, getting lost inside the content. Your content. My content. We take great pride in these divisions, but the border which holds the content, is the same for all of us. It is our common humanity.
Can the frame empty itself of the content it has accumulated, traveling through time? And, if the frame is empty of content, what is "being?"
I have questions and no answers. I would welcome the opportunity to learn from what you've encountered and seen. Name the spot, and I am there. You're right. This has ventured beyond the murder of President Kennedy and probably belongs in another place.
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Keith, I've attached a link to the ForteanTimes Magazine with the article on Blavatsky in case you couldn't access it.
http://www.mediafire.com/?2mv4324u8lyv3k8
I traveled to Ojai to hear Krishnamurti speak not long after that. The stories I heard of his past matched nothing I understood the current incarnation of him to be saying, and I wanted to understand. I could never put the two together. And, probably still can't. Not completely anyway. I spoke to people who knew him closely. I read every book of his talks I could find, every biography and all the personal accounts of encounters with the man. I've more or less concluded that I will never know what was behind this person, and that it probably doesn't matter much anyway. What is important is the door he pointed to throughout his life.
If I understood your last post correctly, I think our perceptions are more aligned than they are different.
Here's what I think may be going on:
The total, the infinite/immensity, can communicate with the frame currently only through the use of images and form. It is all the current brain can process and understand. There is the use of symbols and the personal to communicate that which is beyond the frame and far from anything remotely personal. But the symbol, the personal, none of it is the "beyond."
These are just pointers, but we tend to get lost in them, assign value to them, because it is all we can understand. The immensity/total can touch form, but form cannot touch it.
We live our lives inside this frame, getting lost inside the content. Your content. My content. We take great pride in these divisions, but the border which holds the content, is the same for all of us. It is our common humanity.
Can the frame empty itself of the content it has accumulated, traveling through time? And, if the frame is empty of content, what is "being?"
I have questions and no answers. I would welcome the opportunity to learn from what you've encountered and seen. Name the spot, and I am there. You're right. This has ventured beyond the murder of President Kennedy and probably belongs in another place.
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Keith, I've attached a link to the ForteanTimes Magazine with the article on Blavatsky in case you couldn't access it.
http://www.mediafire.com/?2mv4324u8lyv3k8