08-08-2013, 11:11 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-08-2013, 11:37 PM by David Josephs.)
Custer is talking about Hearsay...
There was quite a lot of discussion about JFK going to Reed yet AF-1 landed at about 6pm EST... If the "group 1" witnesses and boyijean are correct... the casket was choppered to the back of BETHESDA and brought to the morgue entrance at the back of the Bethesda at 6:35.
Can you construct a timeline that allows for transportation to Reed, anything of significance done at Reed, and then back to Bethesda between 6pm-6:35...
If, and only if JFK's body was taken from PARKLAND, and the casket that leaves PARKLAND is empty so as to give the transportation more time... (there was talk of using tunnels leading from Parkland, that DO exist... but that claim has not been supported... neither has the concept of his being seperated from the casket prior to his leaving PARKLAND.
Lipsey's interview for the HSCA is also very interesting and revealing... ARRB-MD87 from Phil's link to MFF. It corroborates O'Connor's recollection of how the casket got there...
[size=12]After the assassination, Lipsey said that he and Wehle met the body at Andrews Air Force Base and placed it
[/SIZE][size=12]in a hearst(sic) - to be transported to Bethesda Naval Hospital.
Lipsey mentioned that he and Wehle then flew by helicopter to Bethesda and took JFK into the back of Bethesda.
[size=12][size=12]A decoy hearst had been driven to the front.[/SIZE]
Lipsey claims that by the end of the evening the Drs were convinced the bullet exited from the front of the neck.... this statement is in direct opposition to the conclusions offered by Sibert and O'Neill who both stated and wrote that the back wound was NON-TRANSITING and that the Drs concluded this bullet worked it's way out (it had actually been removed from the muscles in the torso before 8pm... Humes' frantic state-of-mind as to why there were no bullets in the body was either the greatest acting job of his life or an indication of somehting even more difficult to resolve occurring....)
ONEILL MD189: (O'Neill and Sibert were NOT in the morgue itself until after 8pm.... this statement does not help us know if Lipsey/Wehle were present for the 6:35 entry.
At sometime that evening General Wehle the commanding
officer of the Military District of Washington tried to enter the
room . I would not allow him since he had no obvious reason for
doing so and at that time I had only his word as to who he was . :
After properly identified himself, he told me he had heard that
the casket which transported the President, had been broken in
Dallas as it was being carried into the plane. He did not feel
that it was appropriate for the President of the United States to
be buried in a broken coffin. I allowed him in . He verified it
was broken and some time later returned with another coffin,
empty of course. Jim and I also felt that it would be appropriate
that a listing be made of the people who were in attendance. We
hastily passed around a sheet of paper and directed that all
present write down their names. We believe they did.
[/SIZE][/SIZE]
There was quite a lot of discussion about JFK going to Reed yet AF-1 landed at about 6pm EST... If the "group 1" witnesses and boyijean are correct... the casket was choppered to the back of BETHESDA and brought to the morgue entrance at the back of the Bethesda at 6:35.
Can you construct a timeline that allows for transportation to Reed, anything of significance done at Reed, and then back to Bethesda between 6pm-6:35...
If, and only if JFK's body was taken from PARKLAND, and the casket that leaves PARKLAND is empty so as to give the transportation more time... (there was talk of using tunnels leading from Parkland, that DO exist... but that claim has not been supported... neither has the concept of his being seperated from the casket prior to his leaving PARKLAND.
Lipsey's interview for the HSCA is also very interesting and revealing... ARRB-MD87 from Phil's link to MFF. It corroborates O'Connor's recollection of how the casket got there...
[size=12]After the assassination, Lipsey said that he and Wehle met the body at Andrews Air Force Base and placed it
[/SIZE][size=12]in a hearst(sic) - to be transported to Bethesda Naval Hospital.
Lipsey mentioned that he and Wehle then flew by helicopter to Bethesda and took JFK into the back of Bethesda.
[size=12][size=12]A decoy hearst had been driven to the front.[/SIZE]
Lipsey claims that by the end of the evening the Drs were convinced the bullet exited from the front of the neck.... this statement is in direct opposition to the conclusions offered by Sibert and O'Neill who both stated and wrote that the back wound was NON-TRANSITING and that the Drs concluded this bullet worked it's way out (it had actually been removed from the muscles in the torso before 8pm... Humes' frantic state-of-mind as to why there were no bullets in the body was either the greatest acting job of his life or an indication of somehting even more difficult to resolve occurring....)
ONEILL MD189: (O'Neill and Sibert were NOT in the morgue itself until after 8pm.... this statement does not help us know if Lipsey/Wehle were present for the 6:35 entry.
At sometime that evening General Wehle the commanding
officer of the Military District of Washington tried to enter the
room . I would not allow him since he had no obvious reason for
doing so and at that time I had only his word as to who he was . :
After properly identified himself, he told me he had heard that
the casket which transported the President, had been broken in
Dallas as it was being carried into the plane. He did not feel
that it was appropriate for the President of the United States to
be buried in a broken coffin. I allowed him in . He verified it
was broken and some time later returned with another coffin,
empty of course. Jim and I also felt that it would be appropriate
that a listing be made of the people who were in attendance. We
hastily passed around a sheet of paper and directed that all
present write down their names. We believe they did.
[/SIZE][/SIZE]
Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter