21-08-2013, 09:22 PM
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Cliff - congratulations.
You haven't read Levenda's Sinister Forces trilogy.
I watched 25:20 of this video:
The smears and lies about "Satanism" are egregious.
Anyone who claims that Satanists seek gain at the expense of others doesn't understand Satanism, hasn't done their homework
Anyone who claims that the Church of Satan has "common ground" with Klansmen and Neo-Nazis is ignorant.
Quote:You haven't read the many threads exploring MK-ULTRA and its chosen subjects here on DPF.
And your certainty that I'm unfamiliar with the subject is based on that?
Quote:You have picked the dumbest parts of McGowan's article, and used them to create a Straw Man.
Jan, I don't follow you. I picked the dumbest parts of McGowan's article to pooh-pooh the notion that Zappa, Morrison et al were sinister operatives.
What Strawman? Please explain.
Quote:You have then burnt that Straw Man down - ignoring the fact that it is has very little relevance to the hypotheses explored by Levenda or advanced in many threads here at DPF.
I addressed Levenda in separate posts. I addressed Levenda's ignorance on the subject of Satanism, and my disdain for his okey-doke bullshit about Manson.
My comments about Laurel Canyon were in reference to a different article, separate from Levenda.
What's wrong with that?
Quote:Good for you.
Perhaps this thread can now continue to explore the theme of the nature of the relationship between the counterculture and the JFK assassination research movement.
Maybe you should have a sense of how the counter-culture progressed into the 70's and beyond, what lessons others learned from "counter culture" and what values remained shared between the hippies of the 60's and the punks who followed, and what was different about them.
Then you would realize why punk rockers were more apt to take on the JFK assassination than hippies.