21-09-2013, 07:52 PM
(This post was last modified: 21-09-2013, 08:30 PM by Peter Lemkin.)
Heavy thread......but, please, don't stop.....
Stan, I don't know which 'angles' and 'dark corners' of the JFK Assassination you've explored. I'll assume many. When I started to become aware of his relationship with Mary P. Meyers and their philosophical and experimental journeys together, I started to think along aspects you might be referring to above. That was for him. For us, who remain behind his death [and the slower one of our Country and Polity], and are aware of the awesome and deeply evil forces that conjured it all up, and keep it all hidden in plain sight still, one can get into the philosophical Terra incognito you are venturing. Personally, I favor the existential philosophy of Satre...that there is no absolute meaning to life or anything...only what one chooses [!] to assign to it - or vice versa. I have chosen to assign great significance to certain things and values. Others I assign a lesser or no value to. These decisions are, I hope, not arbitrary, but based on a lifetime's research, hard knocks, readings in many fields and reflection....and yes, psychedelics too...which only reinforced previously formed ideas. Especially for Americans, the JFK Assassination is pivotal to understanding both the 'system', the hidden system, and our place in it and to ourselves and the ocean of thought and being. IMHO. 911 could be another. Such momentous events in one's own lifetime, if fully understood, transform the self in ways far beyond the 'political', opening up a doorway to seeing what is going on NOW externally and has always been going on within us, internally. Those who seek to control others make 'frames' and try to prevent looking beyond them and controlling what can be seen and discerned within them. Our ideas, our hopes and other emotions, our lives and our experiences/perceptions, perhaps even ourselves are, in ways, too non-finite, and cannot be captured in a 'frame', certainly not one of 3 or even 4 dimensions. As to a 'shattered' frame.....whew.....next time....but it does have resonance....lots of resonance....
Stan, I don't know which 'angles' and 'dark corners' of the JFK Assassination you've explored. I'll assume many. When I started to become aware of his relationship with Mary P. Meyers and their philosophical and experimental journeys together, I started to think along aspects you might be referring to above. That was for him. For us, who remain behind his death [and the slower one of our Country and Polity], and are aware of the awesome and deeply evil forces that conjured it all up, and keep it all hidden in plain sight still, one can get into the philosophical Terra incognito you are venturing. Personally, I favor the existential philosophy of Satre...that there is no absolute meaning to life or anything...only what one chooses [!] to assign to it - or vice versa. I have chosen to assign great significance to certain things and values. Others I assign a lesser or no value to. These decisions are, I hope, not arbitrary, but based on a lifetime's research, hard knocks, readings in many fields and reflection....and yes, psychedelics too...which only reinforced previously formed ideas. Especially for Americans, the JFK Assassination is pivotal to understanding both the 'system', the hidden system, and our place in it and to ourselves and the ocean of thought and being. IMHO. 911 could be another. Such momentous events in one's own lifetime, if fully understood, transform the self in ways far beyond the 'political', opening up a doorway to seeing what is going on NOW externally and has always been going on within us, internally. Those who seek to control others make 'frames' and try to prevent looking beyond them and controlling what can be seen and discerned within them. Our ideas, our hopes and other emotions, our lives and our experiences/perceptions, perhaps even ourselves are, in ways, too non-finite, and cannot be captured in a 'frame', certainly not one of 3 or even 4 dimensions. As to a 'shattered' frame.....whew.....next time....but it does have resonance....lots of resonance....
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"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass