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Nelson Mandela. Free at last.
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:
Tracy Riddle Wrote:More tinfoil to chew on.

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Mandela is named as MI6 agent Mandela is named as MI6 agent

Not really. Seems legit. Steven Dorril has quite a good track record on these matters and is well informed. Generally speaking. He was a partner with Ramsey at Lobster for many years. Also if you take on board John Pilger and Naomi Klein's articles above it seems clear compromises, some very bad, were made which were not in the interest of the South African people. The timing of the release of this information is interesting as well as it was just when NM was leaving the presidency. Maybe he didn't play ball re Gadaffi?

Color me very skeptical of this....this smells to me as a smear of Mandela to progressives and radicals who hold him in high esteem, in line with the way he was kept on the US terrorist list until five years ago. Mandela was no saint, but an agent of Western Intelligence [I think] he was not either. They hated him and hate him still. He was pragmatic and worked with many who could advance his causes - on a case-by-case level, but I don't think he ever sold out. At the same moment the S.A. Communist Party is saying that Mandela was always a member.....it wouldn't be a shock to me...but the two just don't jibe...I think neither is true. He was sympathetic to the S.A. Communist Party ideals [my guess] and worked with them. Time will tell...but expect lots more disinfo than info now and for the next few weeks.
Yes, definitely a smear otherwise they'd say nothing. It's like gloating. South Africa would have been a very active place for MI6 given its history and resources. I expect they kept a close watch on several up and coming leaders and cultivated them with or with out their knowledge. I don't think he was amember of the CP either. Just close to individual members from time to time. He was quite anti communist in many respects and instrumental in a purge of the communist from the ANC at one time. In later years he did study the works of communists and work with them in the armed actions but he was more influenced by others like thos involved in Indian independence. I don't think his heart was in the CP as at heart he was a nationalist. His membership may have been strategic. Like you say he was pragmatic.
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Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Magda Hassan - 05-12-2013, 10:57 PM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Albert Doyle - 06-12-2013, 12:09 AM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Magda Hassan - 06-12-2013, 01:02 AM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Magda Hassan - 06-12-2013, 04:10 AM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Peter Lemkin - 06-12-2013, 06:18 AM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Magda Hassan - 06-12-2013, 09:37 AM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by David Guyatt - 06-12-2013, 09:43 AM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Peter Lemkin - 06-12-2013, 10:04 AM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Peter Lemkin - 06-12-2013, 10:07 AM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Peter Lemkin - 06-12-2013, 11:09 AM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Magda Hassan - 06-12-2013, 12:12 PM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Peter Lemkin - 06-12-2013, 06:50 PM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Peter Lemkin - 06-12-2013, 07:44 PM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Magda Hassan - 06-12-2013, 11:46 PM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Magda Hassan - 07-12-2013, 08:27 AM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Peter Lemkin - 07-12-2013, 08:50 AM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Peter Lemkin - 08-12-2013, 07:05 AM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Peter Lemkin - 08-12-2013, 10:37 AM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Tracy Riddle - 08-12-2013, 03:02 PM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Tracy Riddle - 08-12-2013, 04:15 PM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Magda Hassan - 09-12-2013, 04:12 AM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by David Guyatt - 09-12-2013, 10:06 AM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Tracy Riddle - 09-12-2013, 03:25 PM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Peter Lemkin - 09-12-2013, 04:11 PM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Magda Hassan - 09-12-2013, 09:53 PM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Peter Lemkin - 10-12-2013, 07:13 PM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Peter Lemkin - 10-12-2013, 07:44 PM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Peter Lemkin - 10-12-2013, 07:45 PM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Peter Lemkin - 10-12-2013, 07:46 PM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Peter Lemkin - 10-12-2013, 07:47 PM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by David Guyatt - 11-12-2013, 10:14 AM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Magda Hassan - 11-12-2013, 12:01 PM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by David Guyatt - 11-12-2013, 12:10 PM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Peter Lemkin - 13-12-2013, 08:39 AM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Peter Lemkin - 14-12-2013, 09:56 AM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Peter Lemkin - 14-12-2013, 04:26 PM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Peter Lemkin - 15-12-2013, 04:49 PM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Peter Lemkin - 16-12-2013, 06:26 AM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Magda Hassan - 16-12-2013, 06:38 AM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Peter Lemkin - 16-12-2013, 06:42 PM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Peter Lemkin - 16-12-2013, 06:48 PM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Magda Hassan - 17-12-2013, 01:15 PM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Peter Lemkin - 17-12-2013, 07:33 PM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Magda Hassan - 20-12-2013, 12:04 AM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Peter Lemkin - 20-12-2013, 07:12 AM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Magda Hassan - 20-12-2013, 07:16 AM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Magda Hassan - 21-12-2013, 01:44 AM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by David Guyatt - 21-12-2013, 10:35 AM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Magda Hassan - 29-12-2013, 04:00 AM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Peter Lemkin - 29-12-2013, 08:02 AM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Magda Hassan - 06-01-2014, 05:07 AM
Nelson Mandela. Free at last. - by Peter Lemkin - 25-03-2014, 06:49 PM

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